We have one of those blocks which we got from the University of Waikato a rather long long time ago. Telecom never had anything to do with our block. The current situation means that all of the contacts for those blocks have just been wiped. So they cannot even contact the real owners any more unless they kept a record of the old listings. (Fat chance I would say). You can't even say "look I have had this for 14 years". What's even worse is that I was never notified this was happening. And my contact details were up to date. What is the point of the APNIC database when you are listed as the admin, tech contact and maintainer of a block and all of those details are changed without you being notified. Makes a mockery of the whole thing. jfp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jean-Francois Pirus <jfp(a)clearfield.com> Senior Software Engineer Phone (+64-9) 358 2081 Clearfield Software Ltd Fax (+64-9) 358 2083 4th Floor 8-10 Whitaker Place Mob (+64-21) 640 779 P O Box 2348 Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------------------------------