All I can say is that I'm glad I don't work for a carrier anymore. =) Both David and AJ are correct. I think this was the brunt of the pres that Joe and I gave last year. If you're not willing to make a bigger deal about it, then it's not going to happen. Now looking at this mailing list, this is a topic which has sparked a lot of interest and you've all taken the time to write and have your say. But seriously, how many of you have had this conversation with your upstream account managers in either of the following ways. "I'll pay more for IPv6" or "We're moving all our business to someone who offers IPv6" Because if you havn't then it's not surprising that the IPv6 Internet in NZ is in exactly the same state today as it was when Joe and I finished talking last Feb. Come on people - we TOLD you what you had to do. Have you really been ignoring us and playing WoW all this time? =) Dean Alastair Johnson wrote:
David Robb wrote:
I'm all for IPv6 being deployed. The only way it's going to happen is for big customers of big ISPs to say either "I'll pay for IPv6" or "I'll take my business to a competitor who offers IPv6". Endless hand-waving and soapboxing on this mailing list isn't going to achieve much folks. Waving sales commissions (or lack thereof) at sales/account managers of the ISPs might.
And at the end of the day, they're going to buy services from someone, regardless of whether they actually get v6 or not. So you may or may not get the business, and if you don't, you haven't really lost anything anyway.
David is right. It will always be driven by customer demand (dollars), not by "the end is nigh". I even said that last night. :(.
aj.
-- ipv4 and atm is still the only way to go. just accept it.
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