I believe it is listed as Orcon Magical Pony... Or a version of unbound, depends of sleep deprivation levels... If you use the acl and set allow, trace fails, set allow_snoop and trace works. I seem to recall looking at what dig did during a +trace and it was doing non RD requests, it only showed up like that if you also happen to have @<IP> specified. Which while i type makes sense, because dig "Should" be acting as a recursor and doing non recursive queries. Clearly I am rambling and in need of sleep. Sorry if you read all the way to this point:) Paul ________________________________ From: Joe Abley [jabley(a)hopcount.ca] Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:25 a.m. To: Paul Tinson Cc: jonathan.spence(a)power-business.co.nz; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1 On 2013-09-17, at 8:13, Paul Tinson <Paul.Tinson(a)team.orcon.net.nz<mailto:Paul.Tinson(a)team.orcon.net.nz>> wrote: Some resolvers, ours included wont answer trace requests, its seen as cache snooping. Interesting! What resolver are you using? Joe ________________________________ Spam<https://emailguard.orcon.net.nz/canit/b.php?i=08Kqd4oLB&m=3389ff75cf8f&t=20130918&c=s> Not spam<https://emailguard.orcon.net.nz/canit/b.php?i=08Kqd4oLB&m=3389ff75cf8f&t=20130918&c=n> Forget previous vote<https://emailguard.orcon.net.nz/canit/b.php?i=08Kqd4oLB&m=3389ff75cf8f&t=20130918&c=f>