Steve and all, I can full well understand your stand and/or position with respect to not being willing to peer with AT&T given their ongoing business practices... Steve Withers wrote:
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 14:57, J S Russell wrote:
I mean, ICONZ is a major NZ ISP, we have a nationwide network, multiple POPS, we're peered at APE, WIX, we've got a bunch of major web presences hosted with us .. if we don't meet TC's peering criteria, then WHO THE HELL DOES?
They also refuse to peer with AT&T anymore. To be fair, AT&T in the US treated TC the same way TC is treating ICONZ......sad to say.
I think Telecom are pretty much the only ones who they peer with...and everyone elese now has to sit behind Telecom to get their domestic traffic through to TC.
I am VERY DISAPPOINTED by TelstraClear - even Telecom doesn't pull this kind of stunt.
Telstra in Australia control the major peering point(s) and they charge by the MB for traffic - to everyone.
I suspect they are trying to narrow the peering field down to create a tiny 2-3 player market that can tacitly agree to charge for peering....without out actually putting anything in writing. All nods and winks andloud asides to 3rd parties.
I, and the ICONZ engineering staff, are currently treating this as damage and looking for a nice way to route around it.
I can't BELIEVE that some strategically shaved chimp at TelstraClear actually got PAID to make this decision. Way to build a business relationship, guys.
They have rejected the NZ Internet ethos.
Seeing it as a threat to the way things have always been done is a more or less accurate view.
They have no interest in the public good. They are an amoral corporation out to maximise profit.....at least I think that is the current excuse for being amoral.
This is why regulators with sharp teeth are essential.
If any company - telecoms, toilet paper or toast - decides to behave in an amoral way, then society must impose the 'public good' on them....just as we do on any sociopathic person....or in this case, a sociopathic entity.
A corporation.
-- Steve Withers
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