On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 06:24:09PM +1200, Arron Scott wrote:
I get endless number of customers who want to peer with more than one ISP at a time, usually with the intention of resiliency at both the institutional and upstream provider levels. So what they usually want is a Public AS number and a class C which is advertised as a long prefix to the Internet via two upstreams such as Telecom GGI and TelstraClear, often with an intermediary ISP as their direct peer.
APNIC have a policy for allocating long-prefix netblocks for the purposes of multi-homing: http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/add-manage-policy.html#11.1 Alternatively, it's common practice to accept a provider-aggregatable delegation from one provider, and arrange for that long-prefix route to be advertised in addition to its covering supernet (so that it can also be advertised through a different transit provider). So the address space part is a non-issue.
Now ... what I was thinking is ... can we do this without the rare (and increasingly difficult to obtain) Public AS numbers.
APNIC members can obtain ASNs for their customers at no cost beyond the membership fees they already pay. It takes about four days. They are not at all difficult to obtain. I happen to know that at least one of the providers you mentioned is extremely familiar and well-practiced at this process :)
Could we have a publically agreed on pool of Private AS numbers that enterprises can use to peer with service providers. The pool would administered by a "impartial" group (maybe WIX/APE). The AS number would then be stripped by both higher-order ISPs and and the IP address potentially unsuppressed by the ISP who owns the IP address aggregate.
There is no need for it (and there is no "impartial group" called WIX/APE, unless you are talking about Citylink). Joe - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog