Hi Geoff,

You're thinking PACCOM (not PACNET), and yes, I believe ASN 681 was originally registered as part of that, circa 1989 - it may have been in a subsequent change. The oldest reference to it I can find is a router change log entry from 27 June 1990.

ASN 681 actually disappeared completely from the register in one of the many NIC re-shuffles of the early-mid-90s. I noticed and quietly re-registered it. It still had my name on it as co-ordinator until at least June 2000 (even though I was long gone from VUW by then). I always regarded it a Kawaihiko's (and that's the name I re-registered it as), but I can't speak to its history prior to my starting at VUW in January 1992.

If you're wondering how any of that was even possible, well, the Internet ran differently back then...

-- don



On 11/02/22 12:44, Geoff Huston wrote:
AS9503 was assigned by APNIC on the 23rd March 1999 - so whatever the pedigree of this AS it does not predate 1999.

Older NZ AS���s are still in the registry. I can see as AS4648, registered in October 1995, which is Spark, formerly NZ Telecom

I guess that the University of Waikato���s AS681 which I believe is a relic of the PACNET project of 1989 is the earliest NZ AS, but somehow the APNIC registration date was rewritten to the date the record was passed to APNIC from ARIN, being in 2002.

The set of NZ AS numbers which have the same transition date include:

apnic|NZ|asn|681|1|20020801|assigned|A91D9208|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|2537|1|20020801|assigned|A91E66F2|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|2569|2|20020801|assigned|A91CCCF4|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|2756|1|20020801|assigned|A91BD5FB|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|2925|2|20020801|assigned|A91E66F2|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|3711|1|20020801|assigned|A91E66F2|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|3747|1|20020801|assigned|A91E66F2|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|3773|1|20020801|assigned|A91E66F2|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|3787|1|20020801|assigned|A91E66F2|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|3929|1|20020801|assigned|A91E66F2|e-stats
apnic|NZ|asn|4049|1|20020801|assigned|A9142127|e-stats

so much for today���s trivia :-)

Geoff

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