Seeby and all, I have been silently following this discussion and/or thread. Sounds like a bunch of whining to me! :( Seeby - Orcon Internet wrote:
1) The essence of my position is that I don't feel comfortable acting as judge, jury and excecutioner for ISP's connected to our Network.
I wholeheartedly agree that they should know better than to act the way they have, but ultimately I believe in karma and if they have done wrong then they will get what is comming to them without me having to step in and cut anyone off.
2) I do believe that Orcon gets a larger workload in terms of being 'mother hen' than say Global-Gateway. For instance we are StrongNet's supplier, and their actions have created a reasonable amount of work for me. But Global-Gateway is our primary upstream provider, and I don't believe that anyone has called up Global-Gateway and said for example 'Orcon is a customer of yours and Strongnet is a customer of theirs and Strongnet has spamed so you should block all Orcon's netblocks!'
3) For reference, I would like to say that Orcon is in a very stable position at present and the chances of us going 'tits-up' I consider to be extremely remote.
Cheers Seeby
Orcon Internet - www.orcon.net.nz
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
You seem to be saying that your customers get different treatment when you receive reports of abuse depending on what line of business they are in. That seems surprising.
I think what Seeby might be saying, albeit obliquely, is that Orcon doesn't want to become the next AOL by cutting off downstream ISPs, thus joepardising its revenue base.
Also, imagine all the customer poaching spamming that would take place if Orcon went tits-up. Doesn't bear thinking about, really.
Regards,
Juha
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