On 13/11/14 9:31, Dave Mill wrote:
[...] I think WIX just isn’t worth the money when we have alternate ways to/from all WIX peers already - sorry Wellington! [And "home base" is outside Wellington]
As someone based in Wellington, I'd like to note that the ability to get traffic from one location in Wellington to another location in Wellington, without paying an 1800km speed-of-light penalty (ie, round trip to/from Auckland) is definitely a consideration in ISP choice. (It's particularly noticeable when doing interactive work, especially as the intercity links get more congested and there's some packet loss.) In your (Dave's) case, as a practical matter it seems to me there's little practical difference (for users) between "buying inter-city layer 2 to be on WIX" and "buying layer 3 transit which includes advertising onto WIX" -- assuming adequate capacity available (which it sounds like you have). But much as I understand why "most" of the peering in New Zealand happens in Auckland, and as Tim points out most CDN/content providers are going to locate in Auckland if they're in the country at all -- and applaud them doing so, as Auckland is noticeably closer than Sydney! -- I also think it'd be unfortunate if Auckland were to become the _only_ place where traffic was exchanged. Both from a latency point of view (3000km round trips, from eg, down the South Island to Auckland, is even worse than Wellington), and also from an equality-of-opportunity point of view: if all traffic is exchanged in Auckland, any ISP (and potentially customer) based outside of Auckland is at a disadvantage in needing to buy more expensive backhaul to their base. So... geographically it seems inevitable that most traffic will be exchanged in Auckland. But I'd still like to encourage exchanges outside of Auckland. And ISPs to have some presence on them -- even if it's just a layer 3 "all exchanges" transit product, where it doesn't make sense to be there "at layer 2" (colo, or dedicated backhaul bandwidth). Ewen