Hi Tony,

I don't really agree - there's no need to purchase a full protect path from a single system.   SCCN and previously the PacRim cables have conditioned us to do so, but it's not necessary.

From Australia you have:

SCCN
PPC1
AJC
Endeavour

as well as the new Perth to Singapore with Matrix/NextGen cable which gives you a very diverse ring via AAG (admittedly with Hawaii in the loop as well).

PPC1/AJC can be combined with AAG at Guam as well for lower latency.

So you can easily build a system either at the SDH, Wave or IP levels to provide protection to any capacity in the region.

My point is that there are now enough options that there is significant flexibility with respect to how you might go about building your own protection.  

Especially given that a properly run network would attempt to purchase from as many cables as possible in order to ensure they have this protection.

Internode currently purchases from four cable systems directly out of Australia in order to try and reduce our risk against system failure.

MMC

On 11/03/2010, at 12:23 PM, Tony Wicks wrote:

Without the third leg (AU or Asia to USA) of the triangle (from the
diagram on the website) it is of limited usefulness IMHO. I would have
thought looking at the extremely successful design of SC would have been
a good place to start.



-----Original Message-----
From: nznog-bounces@list.waikato.ac.nz
[mailto:nznog-bounces@list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Joe Abley
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 2:16 p.m.
To: Joel Wiramu Pauling
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Subject: Re: [nznog] Fwd: [members-discuss] Pacific Fibre


On 2010-03-10, at 20:12, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:

This will interest people.

Cost is estimated to be around 900 million NZ and to be operational by
2013. Not sure where it will land.

That does seem interesting. However, if the goal is "unlimited high
speed broadband for NZ and Australia" then it seems like it's only part
of the puzzle -- the last mile still has to be dealt with.


Joe
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