Please Ignore if you don't use Linkedin Linkedin is "a business-oriented social networking site, mainly used for professional networking" [1] . See the the website http://www.linkedin.com for more details. Anyway since there seem to be a lot of NZNOG people there and they have recently allowed the creation of groups I have added a "NZNOG" group. To join go to the URL below ( No doubt it complains if you are not a member). http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/37382/36D4B725B06C It'll send me an email and I can then add you. [1] - I think this means it helps you get cool jobs making lots of money. So far I've just been adding people into my network, however if you *do* have a cool job paying lots of money... ;) -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.