Yeah.. I remember something going down like this in the past.. The reason that APE was decided, was that it was 'neutral' between both providers, each provided their own circuits, back to the peering point.. If they were to peer directly, which telco would provide the circuit? Telecom provides it.. Clear's unhappy.. Clear provides it.. Telecom's unhappy.. No one wins.. Two circuits? Could work however.. If they moved to private peering.. It would give each a better idea on how much traffic is flowing between their networks.. Much much easier for them to charge on it.. But then again, we're back to the same problem.. Charging for traffic between the networks, is going to push the price on domestic though the roof yet again.. And they have to pass charges onto someone etc.. Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Johnson [mailto:alastair.johnson(a)maxnet.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2004 1:16 p.m. To: 'nznog' Subject: RE: [nznog] Peering. On Tue, 25 May 2004, Craig Spiers wrote:
If telstraclear, was to stop peering at APE, and remove 'ports and connections to there' wouldn't that limit them to only having 'domestic' data inside their own network?
Don't they use APE for data Telecom > TelstraClear ?
It was mentioned to me verbally that they were looking to how "big players worldwide" were doing it, and were looking to private peering. Did Telecom get notice like this? Otherwise you have a valid point, Craig. If so, will they move to private peering? I remember that before TCL and TCNZ would actually peer at APE there was a big huffle over whether TCL and TCNZ equipment would be allowed to "touch" each other. Ofcourse, perhaps they're concerned about SLA/QoS issues across APE and trying to guarantee a service to their customers thru SLAs when they can't get guarantees from the interconnect facilitator. aj -- Network Operations || noc. +64.9.915.1825 Maxnet || cell. +64.21.639.706 _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog