As a closet engineer, my only value in the process is showing up with the beer. Which as far as I can garner from this list, appears to have some value, unless you live in Canada..... 2 speights worth..... R Arron Scott wrote:
I actually agree the multi-vendor thing is sensible, but there is also value in focussing on each of our equipment at appropriate times. If we have a Cisco night, then we can do it at the Cisco office, we can use all the gear in our labs, have multiple Cisco and Partner engineers there, and can do it at no cost.
Next month do it at some other vendor, and the next another, then whoever has the skill and interest can lead it. The only issue is whether other Vendors are welcome to other vendor nights, which I would expect is a no.
These shouldn't be selling nights, and should be focussed around the engineering issues the attendees have.
NZNOG already provides a vendor neutral environment, and if we choose to have an interworking night, where we play around with some inter-vendor stuff then that's cool too, but we have little room in NZNOG for a group to talk about issues regarding one vendor (other than slamming them for some issue or other). Maybe this would allow a little more useful education in specific areas and technologies of interest to the members.
Just an opinion Arron Scott Cisco NZ
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2002 10:41 p.m. To: Joe Abley Cc: Philip D'Ath; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: CUG
On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 07:24:36PM -0400, Joe Abley wrote:
I have good contacts at Cisco, and the Cisco distributors. I can arrange to get demo equipment for a night to show people, and to let people touch.
I have Cisco qualifications, and can help to get study groups going.
Ah, ok -- it's a cisco sales channel. Now I understand.
Thats ok;
We already have a venue where people with MultiVendor networks can get together and talk/learn from each other.
It's called ThursdayNightCurry.com =)
Seriously though.
There seems to be a huge duplication of effort just around the corner here. So now if people want to arrange a Juniper Certification study group then they have to create their own group etc. Such a shame in a country where everyone in the industry almost knows each other by sight.
Everyone who has replied in favour of this user group has said that they would like it MultiVendor. I'm pleased with that. It shows that people are seeing whats actually happening in the world of networking in NZ.
So good luck with the user group. If you ever want a Juniper involvement then be sure to give me a yell.
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