Thank you everyone for your comments. After a call to chch (thank's Matt) and a look at fx.net.nz i think i have all i need for now - at least a damn good start and all the right contacts. so thanks again to all. Now - how to get the normal PSTN voice calls routed back to the IP pbx/phone... hmm - time to jump into bed with a telco i think or at least connect to one .. IP/CCS7 POI/interface anyone?? lol cheers Gavin