Gentlefolk, I did indeed circulate the mintues of that meeting to all the attendees, asking for errors and omissions. That was done on Thursday 3rd Dec. No direct responses about the content, although I'm in dialogue with jabley about additions. I'll post the minutes this afternoon (after I've got Joe's response today). Rgds Roger De Salis Frank March wrote:

Hello James:

I am copying your query and this response to Roger De Salis, a member of the Council of ISOCNZ who a week ago convened a meeting of 15 or so fairly key New Zealand ISPs to sort out some of the issues relating to the IP numbering space inherited through what was at one time the sole New Zealand portal to the Internet through a gateway operated by Waikato University. Roger is a member of the ISOCNZ Council and our organisation has undertaken to cooperate with the ISPs in New Zealand to assist in working through some of the issues surrounding historical allocations of IP number space.

The good news is that the major and minor ISPs in New Zealand are able and willing to work on this issue jointly. The group has yet to publish any notes coming out of the meeting but Roger will be able to comment on the present situation. (please Roger!)

Frank March Secretary, ISOCNZ

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-----Original Message----- From: James Fischer [SMTP:jfischer(a)supercollider.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 12:21 AM To: secretary(a)isocnz.org.nz Subject: Question

Sirs:

I recently read the following news snippet, and need to find out more about this issue.

Does you group have any involvement in this? If so, is there any publicly-available information on the issue?

"Net engineers move to clear up IP confusion NEW ZEALAND's Internet engineers are moving to prevent companies providing Internet services trying to get a competitive edge by exploiting confusion over Internet addressing."

Our group has extensive distributed networks, supported by different bandwidth suppliers. Needless to say, the IP address situation, and the de-facto "hostage" situation created by the use of non-relocatable address blocks has executives "concerned".

I have been charged with "fixing" the mess.

Any information you could offer on your work in this area would be a big help. (Yes, your page "ipnums" is a well written description, but I am trying to figure out how one might best deal with the situation over the short term [pre IPv6]) given a need to route 6 to 8 class C blocks to each site, while still having each site's "feed" come from a wholesale provider.

-- \_ Roger De Salis Cisco Systems NZ Ltd