Why?... its the weekend and we're bored <grin>... better mention BEER - to remain on-topic of couyrse ian Jonathan Brewer wrote:

Can this thread die please?

-----Original Message----- From: Webmaster [mailto:Webmaster(a)radionz.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, 3 June 2006 11:12 a.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] What is this?

Luxury.

We used to live in a paper bag...

I remember using a 300 bps modem to connect to bulletin boards way back when.

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shane hobson 2/06/2006 19:33 >>>

I used to use Pacnet on a 1200/75 modem on a regular basis. That would

have been late 80's from memory.

Shane

Bill Walker wrote:

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Ian McDonald wrote:

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In which case it was half the Internet - and if all we had was 14K

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the whole country - well, say no more.

Its debatable if that really was an Internet connection in the

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sense.

Well I was using it for NNTP, SMTP, FTP on the Waikato link when it was 2.4K and then 4.8K and it seemed like the Internet to me

then....

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I remember a 1200bps dial up modem my dad had....

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OK, screw this... Back in 19xx I had an Atari 400 and had just upgraded to a 600XL (Yeah, I know - same memory but I wanted a real keyboard and revB basic) and I wanted to communicate between the two for no good reason. SO I built a couple of devices based on a light dependant resistor and a small torch... These plugged into the joystick ports and proved simplex comms at almost 1bps (bit per second)... That's right. ONE BIT PER SECOND. Beat that! I actually sped it up a great deal by running a secondary wired link PURELY FOR SYNCING the LDR and light... I got it up to about 4bps using the wire to sync up the systems... Yes I could have used the wire to transmit the data... That's not really the point. Cheers - N -----Original Message----- From: Richard Naylor [mailto:richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, 3 June 2006 10:41 p.m. To: Webmaster; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] What is this? At 11:12 AM 6/3/2006 +1200, you wrote:

Luxury.

We used to live in a paper bag...

I remember using a 300 bps modem to connect to bulletin boards way back when.

45bps current loop was where I started. Later we built modems, getting to 1200/1200, thru BT's "telepermit" process. Current loop was great fun - it would run for miles - literally, but you had to have what is now called "unbundled local loop" - they used to be know as "pilot cables" in the power industry, and telecom called them A-1 circuits. They were basically dark copper. Telecom actually still do sell them, but only to "special customers". I even used one to demonstrate ADSL back in 96. Using current loop, I used to be able to use BASIC at lunch time. I would load it via paper tape on a teletype that took 45 minutes. Leaving 15 minutes to do something and save it, before having to give the system back. Loading system diagnostics also took an age so sometimes we wrote our own in machine code, just flipping bits in hardware registers and scoping out where the signal died. A lost art now with LSI....... We also used to do sysgen on a machine with 2x 8inch floppies - all of 128kBytes each. sysgen was building the operating system. If we had hard disks, they were the RK05 at 2.5MB each. Later we ran larger systems with 768 KB of core memory with 25 users on the system. I upgraded it to 1.5MB, paying $16K for 768KB. And 450MB disks later cost $42,000 each and required a formal decision of Council..... _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog