IP Management software at ISP/Carrier scale
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going. I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine. I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days. Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome. - JSR
I'm about to Deploy BT's DiamondIP, I'll let you know how I get on
Cheers,
Bill
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:36:25 +1300, John Russell
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days.
Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome.
- JSR
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Thanks for all of your input on this, both on-list and otherwise. Responses have varied, but I have a list of useful stuff to sort through. Cheers! JSR
We use an ancient version of Northstar thats been heavily modified to
give ties in to our billing system for traffic accounting, etc. This
is used for IPv4. This happily takes care of various /19's and /21's.
NS has no IPv6 support nor is it likely to in the future.
I've just started using the latest beta of IPPlan for IPv6. It didn't
have a good way to nicely display IPv6 allocations so I wrote some PHP
to display this in a nice manner from the DB. Seems to work nicely for
us.
Both are free and open source.
Dave
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Russell
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days.
Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome.
- JSR
On 2010-12-15, at 16:36, John Russell wrote:
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days.
Acquaintances who run ISPs here in Canada have dealt with the problem of v6 assignment a little differently than they did with v4, and have generally not looked for a unified v4/v6 assignment tool. For example, suppose you've been assigned 2001:db8::/32, you don't expect to have to handle more than 61,440 customers (and if you do wind up with more you can get another /32), and you want to assign each customer, regardless of residential/business distinction, with a /48. Further suppose that each customer has an identifier that can be reduced to an integer, i, starting at 0x1000. Then assign 2001:db8:i::/48 to customer i. Everything between 2001:db8::/64 and 2001:db8:0fff::/64 (inclusive) can be used for Other Internal Stuff. For internal bits and pieces I am partial to 2001:db8:<site>:<vlan>::/64 schemes which mean that your full documentation requirement reduces to a list of site numbers and things that don't fit in vlans (e.g. loopback address, anycast addresses). In my experience that's such a small amount of stuff that it can happily live in a text file in subversion, or on a single internal neteng wiki page, or something similar. The end. Joe
John, this has been discussed already on the ipv6-techsig(a)mailman.internetnz.net.nz list, maybe you want to hop over there? http://mailman.internetnz.net.nz/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-techsig Archive: http://mailman.internetnz.net.nz/pipermail/ipv6-techsig/ (the thread was back in october) Regards Brian Carpenter On 2010-12-16 10:36, John Russell wrote:
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days.
Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome.
- JSR
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On 16/12/2010, at 10:36 AM, John Russell wrote:
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days.
Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome.
I built the core of one a while back, talking with someone now about finishing it off/productising etc. IPv4/IPv6 mean the same to the whole thing apart from in 3 places in the code.
Have a look at www.infoblox.com IPv6 ready and strong on IP management. Recently released VM versions of the product. Give me a call or email off list to discuss if interested. Regards Robert Cotter Sales Engineer rcotter(a)distributioncentral.co.nz Distribution Central NZ Unit 2, Level 1, 194 Victoria Street West, Auckland 1001, New Zealand. Mb +64 21 675550, T +64 9 309 8277, F +64 9 309 8276 www.distributioncentral.co.nz Distributor in New Zealand of : Acronis, Amigopod, Aruba, Avaya, Clearswift, Crossbeam, Extreme Networks, F5, Force10 Networks, Fortinet, Infoblox, NET, NetScout, Riverbed, Telstrom, Tippingpoint, Varonis, Zeacom -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of John Russell Sent: Thursday, 16 December 2010 10:36 a.m. To: nznog List Subject: [nznog] IP Management software at ISP/Carrier scale So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going. I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine. I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days. Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome. - JSR _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog This email is for the intended recipient(s) only. Be advised that if you have received this email in error that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. The sender cannot guarantee that this email or any attachment to it is free of computer viruses or other conditions which may damage or interfere with data, hardware or software with which it might be used. If you have received this email in error, please notify Distribution Central on +61 2 8986 5000 or notify sender.
http://racktables.org/ I've found this good, no support for IPv6 in V0.18.6 (current) but it has been added to the V0.19 codebase. -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of John Russell Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:36 AM To: nznog List Subject: [nznog] IP Management software at ISP/Carrier scale So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going. I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine. I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days. Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome. - JSR _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
On 15 Dec 2010, at 21:36, John Russell wrote:
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I really like the 6connect one - it does ipv4 and ipv6 assignment management well, and can tie seamlessly into the other router management tools too. Automation ftw. :-) http://www.6connect.net/platform/ipam/ I can introduce you to the vendor, it might lead to better terms than going 'cold' through the site. Andy
any answers here? --bill On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:36:25AM +1300, John Russell wrote:
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days.
Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome.
- JSR
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
Ours is being built but is too far away from being released and will be a hosted solution initially, but a free version will be available later. ...Skeeve --
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To: John Russell
So, I'm looking at this ipv6 assignment from the good folks at APNIC, and I'm also looking at my current, aging, not-very-scalable IP Management system, and I'm not liking where I see this going.
I'm interested to hear NZNOGs suggestions about decent, scalable, software (preferably off-the-shelf) to handle v4 and v6 IP management. Open source stuff welcome, though commercial, supported software is also fine.
I'm just wondering what you cool kids are using to manage their address space these days.
Feedback, thoughts and opinions welcome.
- JSR
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Andy Davidson
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Bill Walker
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bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
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Brian E Carpenter
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Dave Mill
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Joe Abley
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John Russell
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Nathan Ward
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Robert Cotter
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Skeeve Stevens
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Tim Price