Who cut off the piece of string?
From the US West Coast:
~$ traceroute www.domainz.net.nz traceroute: unknown host www.domainz.net.nz ~$ traceroute www.idg.co.nz traceroute: unknown host www.idg.co.nz ~$ dig idg.co.nz. soa +trace ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> idg.co.nz. soa +trace ;; global options: printcmd . 162840 IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 292 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 4 ms nz. 172800 IN NS MX.NSI.NASA.GOV. nz. 172800 IN NS GORGON.XTRA.co.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS1.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS2.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS3.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS4.DNS.NET.nz. ;; Received 258 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 125 ms co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns2.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns3.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns4.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns5.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns6.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns7.dns.net.nz. ;; Received 273 bytes from 128.102.18.31#53(MX.NSI.NASA.GOV) in 74 ms idg.co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.idg.co.nz. idg.co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.iconz.co.nz. ;; Received 101 bytes from 203.97.8.250#53(ns3.dns.net.nz) in 183 ms ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached -- Juha Saarinen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
I was just looking at that (a couple of reports from elsewhere) ns1.dns.net.nz and ns2.dns.net.nz seem to be offline. I hope these arn't the primaries the others are syncing off. Everything else seems to be still online so I'm not sure why you are seeing the errors you are though. On a related note I see APNIC and the ISC are talking about mirroring The f.root-servers.net in APNIC area, anyone know if we might get one in NZ? On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Juha Saarinen wrote:
From the US West Coast:
~$ traceroute www.domainz.net.nz traceroute: unknown host www.domainz.net.nz
~$ traceroute www.idg.co.nz traceroute: unknown host www.idg.co.nz
~$ dig idg.co.nz. soa +trace
; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> idg.co.nz. soa +trace ;; global options: printcmd . 162840 IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 292 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 4 ms
nz. 172800 IN NS MX.NSI.NASA.GOV. nz. 172800 IN NS GORGON.XTRA.co.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS1.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS2.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS3.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS4.DNS.NET.nz. ;; Received 258 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 125 ms
co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns2.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns3.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns4.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns5.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns6.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns7.dns.net.nz. ;; Received 273 bytes from 128.102.18.31#53(MX.NSI.NASA.GOV) in 74 ms
idg.co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.idg.co.nz. idg.co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.iconz.co.nz. ;; Received 101 bytes from 203.97.8.250#53(ns3.dns.net.nz) in 183 ms
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
-- Juha Saarinen
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ns1.dns.net.nz and ns2.dns.net.nz seem to be offline. I hope these arn't the primaries the others are syncing off. Everything else seems to be still online so I'm not sure why you are seeing the errors you are though.
TelstraClear has had some serious problems from about 9am this morning, which was affecting all of the Domainz network, 202.46.160.0/20, including ns1.dns.net.nz and ns2.dns.net.nz. The SRS primaries (primary1.dns.net.nz and primary2.dns.net.nz) and the SRS site itself appear to have been unaffected, as were the remaining name servers (ns3..ns7). The Domainz Wellington site (including ns2.dns.net.nz) was available to Wellington users (go WIX!), but wasn't reachable from the rest of the world. As we have two thirds of the NZ nameservers reachable, there shouldn't have been any loss of service nor significant performance degradation in the NZ DNS. The problems appear to been fixed now.
On a related note I see APNIC and the ISC are talking about mirroring The f.root-servers.net in APNIC area, anyone know if we might get one in NZ?
Unlikely. We don't generate enough traffic. Oceania as a whole accounts for a significant proportion of US West Coast root server traffic, and of that a pretty big proportion (more than 80%) comes from Australia. So the logical place to put it is somewhere in Aus. Even that will give a performance boost to root queries from within NZ, as the RTT to Aus (assuming half-decent trans-tasman routing) is less than a third of that to the US. (Damn, 'c' is a small number.) http://www.caida.org/outreach/presentations/dns0209/mgp00035.html -- don - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 01:28:06PM +1300, Don Stokes wrote:
TelstraClear has had some serious problems from about 9am this morning, which was affecting all of the Domainz network, 202.46.160.0/20, including ns1.dns.net.nz and ns2.dns.net.nz.
Incidentally, wasn't the original plan for AS9736 to be multi-homed? I don't see any paths from here that show 9736 getting transit from anybody other than 4763. Joe - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Joe wrote:
Incidentally, wasn't the original plan for AS9736 to be multi-homed?
It was. Don't get me started on how many times a certain carrier said "we will do it", and then failed utterly to turn the words into action. But mainly the need was for registry services rather than the DNS. In real life, most of the automated stuff was going via the email template, and that could back off and retry quite happily. Without getting into an off-topic discussion of NZ domain name politics, I would suggest that, in hindsight, network availability hasn't been the major reliability issue with domain name registration services. As to the DNS, almost all DNS queries come via caching name servers that are perfectly capable of recording which name servers aren't answering in good time, and directing minimal queries to them. As such there is no loss of service from losing a DNS server or two, and very little performance degradation. That's why we have lots of DNS servers. -- don - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Don Stokes wrote:
Don't get me started on how many times a certain carrier said "we will do it", and then failed utterly to turn the words into action.
But mainly the need was for registry services rather than the DNS.
I have some multihomed colo in Auckland if you want to stick your registry box up here. Tell you what, convince InternetNZ to swap the registry manager for "2 geeks and a pager" (as promised) and we will provide colo for free! regards -- Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2DAY INTERNET LIMITED http://www.2day.com "Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something!" Thomas A Edison - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
[when I sent this from jabley(a)isc.org it didn't show up; maybe nznog became subscriber-only without me noticing] On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 01:28:06PM +1300, Don Stokes wrote:
Simon Lyall
wrote: On a related note I see APNIC and the ISC are talking about mirroring The f.root-servers.net in APNIC area, anyone know if we might get one in NZ?
Unlikely. We don't generate enough traffic. Oceania as a whole accounts for a significant proportion of US West Coast root server traffic, and of that a pretty big proportion (more than 80%) comes from Australia. So the logical place to put it is somewhere in Aus. Even that will give a performance boost to root queries from within NZ, as the RTT to Aus (assuming half-decent trans-tasman routing) is less than a third of that to the US. (Damn, 'c' is a small number.)
The plan is to deploy lots of F root clusters in lots of different places. The fact that NZ currently presents a small proportion of the load served by the current F cluster does not mean there aren't good reasons to host an anycast F root in New Zealand (as well as elsewhere in the region). There is a solid operational justification for locating an anycast F root in NZ, which is to allow name resolution under NZ to continue in the event that some or all of the large providers in NZ lose international transit (e.g. a double-point failure on southern cross). Joe (with ISC hat on) - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Sunday November 24, 2002
Effect:
Unplanned Outage
Details:
A third party upstream provider had a problem with a processor. Techs are
currently on the site and implementing a fix. Customers should see
international traffic resume intermittantly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juha Saarinen"
From the US West Coast:
~$ traceroute www.domainz.net.nz traceroute: unknown host www.domainz.net.nz
~$ traceroute www.idg.co.nz traceroute: unknown host www.idg.co.nz
~$ dig idg.co.nz. soa +trace
; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> idg.co.nz. soa +trace ;; global options: printcmd . 162840 IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 162840 IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 292 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 4 ms
nz. 172800 IN NS MX.NSI.NASA.GOV. nz. 172800 IN NS GORGON.XTRA.co.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS1.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS2.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS3.DNS.NET.nz. nz. 172800 IN NS NS4.DNS.NET.nz. ;; Received 258 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 125 ms
co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns2.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns3.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns4.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns5.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns6.dns.net.nz. co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns7.dns.net.nz. ;; Received 273 bytes from 128.102.18.31#53(MX.NSI.NASA.GOV) in 74 ms
idg.co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.idg.co.nz. idg.co.nz. 86400 IN NS ns1.iconz.co.nz. ;; Received 101 bytes from 203.97.8.250#53(ns3.dns.net.nz) in 183 ms
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
-- Juha Saarinen
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On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Matthew Harrison wrote:
Sunday November 24, 2002 Effect: Unplanned Outage Details: A third party upstream provider had a problem with a processor. Techs are currently on the site and implementing a fix. Customers should see international traffic resume intermittantly.
"Resume intermittantly"??? -- Juha Saarinen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
participants (6)
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Don Stokes
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Joe Abley
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Juha Saarinen
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Matthew Harrison
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Peter Mott
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Simon Lyall