I've been told that TelstraClear have commenced using PPPoE over their ADSL now, instead of PPPoA. I produce a series of sample configs for Cisco routers for DSL, which can be found at: http://www.ifm.net.nz/cookbooks/ I would like to get a sample Cisco config for a Cisco 837 from TelstraClear (or any Cisco DSL router), and add it to my WWW pages. Could someone from TelstraClear contact me offlist with this info please. Philip D'Ath CCNP, CCDA, BCMS http://www.ifm.net.nz/