[Reply] HI all, I had a conversation over dinner with an ECPAT person some years ago. While doing good work, they seemed to believe that because technology allowed images to be scanned for "flesh colours" then every email, attachment, and website should be filtered. I tried to explain technology and cost issues, and then the fact that any system, once implemented, would/could be easily bypassed by the "perverts", leaving Joe Public to pay the costs for an expensive white elephant. There was also blindness to the possible abuses by the operators of such a system, particularly where the filtering rules are hidden. So we may well have a case of political operators riding the "noble cause(s)". So we best be aware here. The slippery slope is indeed already well oiled. cheers Gary At 11:54 on 17/02/2010 you wrote

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Am I the only one to spot that they're going to use a _Content_ filter to actually filter URLs?

A content filter is able to scan the pages for offending material, when they talk about installing a black list of web sites.

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And a content filter has got far bigger technical challenges than just filtering URLs and IPs ... or are they giving themselves the ability to deploy further and smarter filtering in the future?

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From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of McDonald Richards Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 2010 11:45 a.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] DIA Filters

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Out of curiosity does the NZ list also contain RC (refused classification) material or is it purely child pornography - or are people being kept in the dark about the exact contents of the list? Is it as useless as the proposed AU one which will only stop HTTP?

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I guess you can say this is an issue close to all of our hearts (Aussies that is) at the moment - both because of the wasted tax payers money (what good is a filter that doesn't work) and the ability for our government to censor what the public servants perceive as restricted content at whim!

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Macca

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From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 2010 9:25 AM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] DIA Filters

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I don't suppose anyone is prepared to comment on If particular ISP's intend to adopt whatever this is ?

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