On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Dan Clark wrote:

I'm sure this has been suggested before but it would be interesting to see total flow across Citylink switches at APE and WIX

It's not 55 Gbit/s if that's what you're thinking! We've been asked this before but it's not as straightforward as it might appear particularly for the WIX. Not all the traffic that traverses the APE switches (and there are now 10 of them - 3 in the Sky Tower, 1 at 125 Queen St, 1 at 16 Kingston St and five more dotted around the Auckland CBD) is peering traffic. Some ISPs are now using the PublicLAN that peering happens over to talk to their customers as well. But it's fair to say that summing the ingress and egress stats and dividing by two would be pretty close. Wellington is much harder as many, many Citylink customers in Wellington are not part of the peering setup. That said when we've got some spare cycles (hah!) it's something we'd like to do but wait a wee while before you start holding your breath!

At 09:39 PM 10/1/2004 +1200, Don Stokes wrote:

Andy Linton wrote:

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Wellington is much harder as many, many Citylink customers in Wellington are not part of the peering setup.

Even without worrying about that, the numbers would be pretty interesting. Summing all the ports that correspond to sites peering with the WIX route servers would be make for some interesting numbers too.

I agree the traffic figures would be interesting, but equally as interesting is the size of WIX and/or APE. Some idea of the complexity is given by Total number of announcements 734 Total number of neighbors 120 Comparing that with LiNX shows WIX to be of similar complexity. APE is getting there with around 50 neighbours from memory. Whats interesting about them both is that they are distributed exchanges, open to a wide community and not limited to the ISP/carrier community. Andy indicated that when he mentioned that less than 30% of the APE switch fabric is in the Sky Tower. Elvis left the building about 3 years ago. So while we don't see the traffic volumes that LINX see, we can all learn about managing the complexity. rich in a sleep deprived state again, sorry

On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 01:01:00PM +1300, Barry Murphy wrote:

I have also spoken to Daniel Langille (who used to admin the nz mirrors way back and still maintains nz.freebsd.org) about pointing ftp.nz.freebsd.org to that box. Can someone give me the contact details of the admin for linux.js .

There is a replacement [1], currently lime.unixathome.org, sitting at citylink at the moment. It has a large IDE disk and should be able to have a larger mirror. However there have been some delays getting the machine setup. I've been too busy to push things though. Someone at citylink offered to take do some admin work on the machine, I'll kick up some dust and see if we can get things more active. [1] Hardware thanks to Akl Uni Stat Department. Nicholas

On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 02:36:47PM +1300, Michael Jager wrote:

If ftp.nz.freebsd.org ends up being hosted by Citylink, will it actually be a mirror which is accessible by the whole country, or will it become the "WIX peers only" mirror, much like ftp.nz.debian.org? I notice the "your ISP is broken" message is still broken:

AFAIK ftp/cvsup.nz.freebsd.org was hosted by citylink previously. Citylink's policy on the donation of bandwidth has been affected by the change to peering policy in NZ. Which is fair enough. I've heard some talk of another machine being put together for APE. I'm not sure if this will include *BSD content. Maybe if the space is available citylink will allow a second machine for a BSD mirror on APE. Personally, my current maxnet machines are pointing at ftp.au.debian.org as I've found no decent (*) well published APE connected debian mirrors. (*) debian.ihug.co.nz was several times a few days out of sync. Nicholas