Hi, Thanks to all those who responded to my DNS problem -- 2 weeks of dicking about, and finally some clear answers. For those who asked the details are: NZ domain: cypher.co.nz NS: enigma.cypher.co.nz IP: 202.37.176.1 .COM domain: cypher-international.com, and cypherinternational.com I simply want to point both of these back here. They are held by domains.com, also called dns4less.com, also called tucows.com, and I cannot pry our name off them for 60 days. The issue is more that they WONT add A record(s) until the nameservers are registered with the internic, and while I am aware that other US registrars (such as Network Solutions) can do this -- they can't/wont -- the nameservers have to be registered first. After 60 days I can pry our domain name off them and transfer it to someone useful, but for now..... This is what happens when over enthusiastic co-workers decide to establish a international presence without looking first...... Sigh. PS:- I am not a DNS expert -- I can only just swim in this end of the pool. -- Regards, Gavin Melville, gavin(a)cypher.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
:: The issue is more that they WONT add A record(s) until the :: nameservers are :: registered with the internic, and while I am aware that other US :: registrars (such as :: Network Solutions) can do this -- they can't/wont -- the :: nameservers have to be :: registered first. What do you mean by this? For both those domains, the nameservers are: NS1.DNS4LESS.COM 207.183.41.156 NS2.DNS4LESS.COM 207.183.41.157 Can't you go to http://manage.opensrs.net/ and add the necessary records? -- Juha --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
At 3:36 pm +1200 5/11/01, Gavin wrote:
Hi,
Thanks to all those who responded to my DNS problem -- 2 weeks of dicking about, and finally some clear answers.
For those who asked the details are:
NZ domain: cypher.co.nz NS: enigma.cypher.co.nz IP: 202.37.176.1
.COM domain: cypher-international.com, and cypherinternational.com I simply want to point both of these back here. They are held by domains.com, also called dns4less.com, also called tucows.com, and I cannot pry our name off them for 60 days.
Wrong. You've committed a buffoonerism in believing that domains.com/dns4less.com and tucows.com are one and the same. Tucows is an ICANN accredited Registrar. domains.com/dns4less.com is probably a RESELLER of Tucows/OpenSRS. The 60 days no-transfer period after you've registered a fresh name has been imposed by ICANN. This is beyond the control of the Registrar. If you don't like it, complain to ICANN.
The issue is more that they WONT add A record(s) until the nameservers are registered with the internic,
The OpenSRS system won't allow you to use a name server that isn't in verisign's NS database without registering the NS first. It's a safety feature. Unfortunately, doing so for NS's in ccTLD is a manual process.
and while I am aware that other US registrars (such as Network Solutions) can do this -- they can't/wont -- the nameservers have to be registered first.
When you say "other US registrars (such as Network Solutions) can do this" you are talking about registering an NS with Verisign. OpenSRS CAN do this, it's their RESELLER that is giving you the incorrect info. And if you send an email to support(a)opensrs.net asking them to register enigma.cypher.co.nz as a name server, it should get done within 24 hours.
After 60 days I can pry our domain name off them and transfer it to someone useful, but for now.....
Once you talk to OpenSRS and get your ccTLD Name Server glue inserted, you shouldn't have any further problem with your current registrar (Tucows) even though their RESELLER appears to be a little dense. You can route-around the reseller-from-hell by going directly to http://manage.opensrs.net inserting your domain name, your user name and password, and have full control over those .com names (changing NS data, holder details, etc) from the comfort of your own browser.
This is what happens when over enthusiastic co-workers decide to establish a international presence without looking first...... Sigh.
It's easily fixed, without needing to transfer the name. OpenSRS is one of the best (and fairest) Registrars out there - you'd be doing yourself a favour by sticking with them.
PS:- I am not a DNS expert -- I can only just swim in this end of the pool.
No need to explain what is already known. :^) -- Andrew P. Gardner barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP? We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare? Get active: http://www.domain-owners.org http://www.tldlobby.com --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
:: The OpenSRS system won't allow you to use a name server that isn't in :: verisign's NS database without registering the NS first. It's a safety :: feature. Unfortunately, doing so for NS's in ccTLD is a manual process. Is the Verisign NS d/b published? -- Juha --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Andy Gardner wrote:
The OpenSRS system won't allow you to use a name server that isn't in verisign's NS database without registering the NS first. It's a safety feature. Unfortunately, doing so for NS's in ccTLD is a manual process.
What I don't see is why you can't follow the recommended method and create a.ns.cipher-interernational.com and b.ns.cipher-international.com using the IP addresses of your existing nameservers? Most registrars I've dealt with are happy to create the 'glue' records you need to do this automatically.
Once you talk to OpenSRS and get your ccTLD Name Server glue inserted, you shouldn't have any further problem with your current registrar (Tucows) even though their RESELLER appears to be a little dense.
You can't put .nz glue records into the .com database. And even if you did, they'd be rejected by most DNS resolvers. Of course, you can put delegations to nameservers outside .com, they just end up being glueless. Which is usually fine, although can lead to problems down the track if something on the authoratitive .nz servers changes, so I guess that's why OpenSRS discourages it. (before you ask, yes the delegations for waikato.edu and waikato.com have this problem... do a 'dig SOA waikato.edu @192.5.5.241' and note that the nameserver IP addresses aren't returned, you have to stop and query the .nz servers about waikato.ac.nz first before continuing to lookup waikato.edu addresses... I'm hoping to recitify this in the near future however) --Colin. ** Colin Palmer, Systems and Development Group, University of Waikato, NZ ** --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
I don't think this list is the appropriate place for this discussion. This list is supposed to be used for NZ network specific issues, not general help on net related issues. The s/n ratio is going up a bit high. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 06:37:09PM +1200, Tony Wicks wrote:
I don't think this list is the appropriate place for this discussion. This list is supposed to be used for NZ network specific issues, not general help on net related issues. The s/n ratio is going up a bit high.
Going down a bit low, you mean. One can only hope :) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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