Re: [nznog] Netsites Domain Name Changes page offline?
From: Ewen McNeill
I wasn't aware that they were (still) conducting a review (again), and Mark's "changes" list seems (at first glance) to be consistent with the existing zone transfer policies.
I got asked on 1 July by Nick Griffin to not publish the changes list until some review I wasn't aware of that is apparently currently happening was completed.
I know that Mark updated those scripts recently ('cause I prompted him to do so, since some links were out of date including the ones for whois)
Actually it was just the whois links.
I guess lots of people doing the same thing would be bad, but this page has been around for yonks.
As I understand it, that was the main reason (in an earlier interation of setting zone transfer restrictions) for allowing Mark's scripts to keep going -- it was one point where people could look for changes, rather than everyone doing their own zone transfers.
Well the growth stats are the primary reason I'm still doing it. The other pages merely fall out from doing that. cheers mark
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Mark Davies wrote:
I wasn't aware that they were (still) conducting a review (again), and Mark's "changes" list seems (at first glance) to be consistent with the existing zone transfer policies.
I got asked on 1 July by Nick Griffin to not publish the changes list until some review I wasn't aware of that is apparently currently happening was completed.
Perhaps the DNC should explain to us why there is a problem with Mark's excellent netsites page. I have found it a very valuable resource (thanks Mark) for many years now. Just because we have the new system doesn't mean we have to throw out the old stuff with it. Is it doing any harm or is it because it isn't published by DNC and so not sanctioned? The thing is there's stuff I was able to do there that domainz (when it was a monopoly) and probably now SRS probably don't have the ability to do. I say probably because I haven't had the need to visit Mark's site apart from looking up the stats since the SRS has gone through. Please may we have Mark's netsites pages back! Thanks lin
The email below tells us that Mark's domain stats site is no longer updated due to the DNC office. Have the DNC office done their review and justified their reason for shutting down Mark's site? It is now nearly 2 months and we haven't seen any positive developments on this. Bear in mind that Mark does this useful service at no cost to them (Or that's the impression I get) and this service existed way way way before DNS or even Internet NZ /ISOCNZ ever existed. Unless they intend to take over the job themselves and do an equal task (without turning things into pdf documents or couched in legalese/spin), I would like to see Mark's site resume (if mark is willing to continue). If he isn't, I am sure there'll be someone who will be more tham happy to raise their hand to offer to take over the task lin On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Mark Davies wrote:
I wasn't aware that they were (still) conducting a review (again), and Mark's "changes" list seems (at first glance) to be consistent with the existing zone transfer policies.
I got asked on 1 July by Nick Griffin to not publish the changes list until some review I wasn't aware of that is apparently currently happening was completed.
I know that Mark updated those scripts recently ('cause I prompted him to do so, since some links were out of date including the ones for whois)
Actually it was just the whois links.
I guess lots of people doing the same thing would be bad, but this page has been around for yonks.
As I understand it, that was the main reason (in an earlier interation of setting zone transfer restrictions) for allowing Mark's scripts to keep going -- it was one point where people could look for changes, rather than everyone doing their own zone transfers.
Well the growth stats are the primary reason I'm still doing it. The other pages merely fall out from doing that.
cheers mark
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On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:31, Lin Nah wrote:
The email below tells us that Mark's domain stats site is no longer updated due to the DNC office. <snipped> lin
Thanks for writing the email I should have Lin :-)
I was meaning to follow up my original query with the person mentioned
in the original discussion (Nick Griffin) to get the other side of the
story. (Nick, refer
http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2003-July/006475.html and
prior messages).
Nick, do you care to contribute? Is this going to be sorted out in the
near future?
/Bruce
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Bruce Fitzsimons
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:31:54 +1200 (NZST), Lin Nah
The email below tells us that Mark's domain stats site is no longer updated due to the DNC office.
Have the DNC office done their review and justified their reason for shutting down Mark's site? It is now nearly 2 months and we haven't seen any positive developments on this.
Bear in mind that Mark does this useful service at no cost to them (Or that's the impression I get) and this service existed way way way before DNS or even Internet NZ /ISOCNZ ever existed.
Unless they intend to take over the job themselves and do an equal task (without turning things into pdf documents or couched in legalese/spin), I would like to see Mark's site resume (if mark is willing to continue). If he isn't, I am sure there'll be someone who will be more tham happy to raise their hand to offer to take over the task
I think the major issue is preventing spam. As I have said previously I have been a major user of Mark's site and found it really useful. However the list of new domains registered does make it easier for scammers/spammers to compile a partial list of the .nz register. With around 4,000 new domains a month it only takes a year to get over a third of the total .nz register. I believe there is an intention to have growth stats published again, but I'm not aware or involved with any details such as where about. DPF -- Blog: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz E-mail: david(a)farrar.com ICQ: 29964527 MSN: dpf666(a)hotmail.com
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