Given that APNIC are now assigning 4-byte AS numbers by default, I wondered what the state of play was among members of this list. You can still get 2-byte AS numbers: "Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable." but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction. Is anyone out there ready for this?
We (Snap) can handle 4 byte AS numbers. Although none of our customers have any yet. Cheers, Bill -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Andy Linton Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2009 9:07 a.m. To: 'NZNOG List' Subject: [nznog] 4-byte AS numbers Given that APNIC are now assigning 4-byte AS numbers by default, I wondered what the state of play was among members of this list. You can still get 2-byte AS numbers: "Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable." but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction. Is anyone out there ready for this? _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
We're three routers away from having every system compatible with 4-byte ASN. Three routers and three(ish) weeks, cross fingers :) -Michael On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 09:06 +1200, Andy Linton wrote:
Given that APNIC are now assigning 4-byte AS numbers by default, I wondered what the state of play was among members of this list. You can still get 2-byte AS numbers:
"Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable."
but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction.
Is anyone out there ready for this?
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On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 09:06 +1200, Andy Linton wrote:
Given that APNIC are now assigning 4-byte AS numbers by default, I wondered what the state of play was among members of this list. You can still get 2-byte AS numbers:
"Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable."
but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction.
Is anyone out there ready for this?
I'm seeing some routing oddities with one client that has been assigned a 2-byte ASN, but it seems all the issues are upstream. It seems that not everyone is ready. I think we need to send some folks a good supply of beer to make sure they upgrade their software. -- Andrew Ruthven Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2010 | Follow the signs. Visit Wellington! | http://www.lca2010.org.nz
On 7/07/2009, at 8:22 PM, Andrew Ruthven wrote:
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 09:06 +1200, Andy Linton wrote:
Given that APNIC are now assigning 4-byte AS numbers by default, I wondered what the state of play was among members of this list. You can still get 2-byte AS numbers:
"Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable."
but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction.
Is anyone out there ready for this?
I'm seeing some routing oddities with one client that has been assigned a 2-byte ASN, but it seems all the issues are upstream.
Do you mean 4 byte?
It seems that not everyone is ready. I think we need to send some folks a good supply of beer to make sure they upgrade their software.
Well, it should be backwards compatible for the most part. An AS with a 4-byte will need full support on all their kit, but they should be able to interconnect with peers without any problems. The non-4-byte AS sees it as AS23456. -- Nathan Ward
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 08:26:44PM +1200, Nathan Ward wrote:
On 7/07/2009, at 8:22 PM, Andrew Ruthven wrote:
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 09:06 +1200, Andy Linton wrote:
Given that APNIC are now assigning 4-byte AS numbers by default, I wondered what the state of play was among members of this list. You can still get 2-byte AS numbers:
"Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable."
but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction.
Is anyone out there ready for this?
I'm seeing some routing oddities with one client that has been assigned a 2-byte ASN, but it seems all the issues are upstream.
Do you mean 4 byte?
It seems that not everyone is ready. I think we need to send some folks a good supply of beer to make sure they upgrade their software.
Well, it should be backwards compatible for the most part. An AS with a 4-byte will need full support on all their kit, but they should be able to interconnect with peers without any problems. The non-4-byte AS sees it as AS23456.
-- Nathan Ward
and how many AS23456 peers are you willing/able to talk to at any given time? --bill
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 20:26 +1200, Nathan Ward wrote:
On 7/07/2009, at 8:22 PM, Andrew Ruthven wrote:
I'm seeing some routing oddities with one client that has been assigned a 2-byte ASN, but it seems all the issues are upstream.
Do you mean 4 byte?
Err, yes. And I haven't even had a beer. Oh dear.
It seems that not everyone is ready. I think we need to send some folks a good supply of beer to make sure they upgrade their software.
Well, it should be backwards compatible for the most part. An AS with a 4-byte will need full support on all their kit, but they should be able to interconnect with peers without any problems. The non-4-byte AS sees it as AS23456.
Ah, theory. Everything works perfectly in theory. ;) -- Andrew Ruthven Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2010 | Follow the signs. Visit Wellington! | http://www.lca2010.org.nz
On 7/07/2009, at 8:32 PM, Andrew Ruthven wrote:
It seems that not everyone is ready. I think we need to send some folks a good supply of beer to make sure they upgrade their software.
Well, it should be backwards compatible for the most part. An AS with a 4-byte will need full support on all their kit, but they should be able to interconnect with peers without any problems. The non-4-byte AS sees it as AS23456.
Ah, theory. Everything works perfectly in theory. ;)
I'd be interested to see where it doesn't in practice, I haven't heard of anything so far, apart from the thing you're talking about... do you have any details about that? I would imagine it's just user error somewhere.. -- Nathan Ward
On 6 Jul 2009, at 22:06, Andy Linton wrote:
"Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable." but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction. Is anyone out there ready for this?
Hi, I have done a few asn32 talks, if someone wants to present them at a local NOG then we can update them together and they can present. http://www.andyd.net/index.php/talks/ Thanks Andy
http://as4.cluepon.net/index.php/Software_Support ________________________________ From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:35 AM To: 'NZNOG List' Subject: Re: [nznog] 4-byte AS numbers I think it might be a good thing just to give an overview of the current level of vendor support. ie what version of IOS/JUNOS/*OS do you need to run to support these (and I don't mean the ASN-NAT support =) ) There are people who will be running versions too old. Dean Andy Davidson wrote: On 6 Jul 2009, at 22:06, Andy Linton wrote: "Two-byte AS numbers will only be assigned if the applicant can demonstrate that a four-byte only AS number is unsuitable." but come January 2010 numbers will be assigned without distinction. Is anyone out there ready for this? Hi, I have done a few asn32 talks, if someone wants to present them at a local NOG then we can update them together and they can present. http://www.andyd.net/index.php/talks/ Thanks Andy _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
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Nathan Ward