Paradise Not Announcing Routes to Telecom?
I don't think paradise is announcing all their ranges to Global-gateway/telecom/netgate ... All I can see coming from Paradise's AS via Global-Gateway's AS is.. 202.0.32.0/21 202.0.40.0 202.49.136.0 202.49.137.0 202.50.109.0 203.96.144.0/20 Which means going to a few of there sites takes the long way around This is from 210.55.71.10 (Netgate DSL Ports) [root(a)lennon /root]# traceroute 203.79.66.5 traceroute to 203.79.66.5 (203.79.66.5), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 210-55-71-254.adsl.netgate.net.nz (210.55.71.254) 46.917 ms 45.328 ms 47.723 ms 2 gateway.adsl.netgate.net.nz (192.168.253.1) 42.951 ms 45.873 ms 46.387 ms 3 202.37.247.253 (202.37.247.253) 247.152 ms 293.514 ms 228.592 ms 4 p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.161) 129.325 ms 170.006 ms 162.937 ms 5 202.50.116.170 (202.50.116.170) 168.543 ms 176.873 ms 181.526 ms 6 a4-1-0-3.sybr1.netgate.net.nz (202.50.116.82) 195.767 ms 191.548 ms 195.817 ms 7 connect.sybr1.netgate.net.nz (202.50.116.115) 200.465 ms 216.558 ms 229.336 ms 8 atm0-1-0-27.bdr1.syd.connect.com.au (210.8.219.237) 236.039 ms 233.281 ms 169.433 ms 9 Fddi1-0-0.pad13.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.32.5) 179.480 ms 184.586 ms 197.406 ms 10 GigabitEthernet4-0.pad-core3.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.249.240) 197.091 ms 222.966 ms 226.596 ms 11 Pos6-0-0.nzsx-core1.Auckland.net.reach.com (203.50.126.50) 251.709 ms 244.772 ms 259.497 ms 12 FE4-1-0.b2.sxb.akl.tsnz.net (203.98.4.2) 237.052 ms 247.860 ms 192.220 ms 13 bertha.lqy.tsnz.net (203.98.21.29) 219.672 ms 203.286 ms 217.687 ms 14 fe0-0-0.kelly.paradise.net.nz (203.96.152.1) 221.610 ms 243.152 ms 240.241 ms 15 ipnet.ipnet2.paradise.net.nz (203.96.155.157) 259.118 ms 244.233 ms 225.757 ms 16 * * * 17 203-79-66-5.adsl-wns.paradise.net.nz (203.79.66.5) 219.332 ms 220.679 ms 234.058 ms Paradises announced ranges works well ... traceroute to 202.49.136.1 (202.49.136.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 210-55-71-254.adsl.netgate.net.nz (210.55.71.254) 48.527 ms 45.405 ms 49.883 ms 2 gateway.adsl.netgate.net.nz (192.168.253.1) 45.382 ms 45.137 ms 47.048 ms 3 a3-0-1.tkcr1.netgate.net.nz (202.50.245.162) 44.982 ms 47.008 ms 45.924 ms 4 paradise.akcr1.netgate.net.nz (202.37.246.74) 57.388 ms 56.106 ms 57.412 ms 5 fe7-0-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz (203.96.152.254) 55.865 ms 55.924 ms 58.631 ms 6 203-96-144-21.cable.paradise.net.nz (203.96.144.21) 67.965 ms * 66.898 ms Thanks Craig Whitmore --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 08:01:29PM +1200, Craig Whitmore wrote: I don't think paradise is announcing all their ranges to Global-gateway/telecom/netgate ... All I can see coming from Paradise's AS via Global-Gateway's AS is.. 9345 (Paradise) are announing 203.79.64.0/18 to 4768 but it wasn't in their filter list (never has been) --- I just added it after checked APNIC records. Perhaps the same applies for other peers... odd, because this isn't a new allocation, so I guess nobody every noticed before? I also note we receive this from 4763 (makes sense) but it's not in their filter list either... <pause> OK, fixed... lets see that level of responsiveness from the competition :) If it matters, via 4768: traceroute to 203.79.66.5 (203.79.66.5), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ba4-fe1-0-1-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.81.205) 0.761 ms 2 ba4-fe1-0-1-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.81.205) 0.626 ms 3 jcore2-at-0-1-0-10-wgtn.wellington.clix.net.nz (203.97.8.82) 9.508 ms 4 ba1-fa-0-0-0-2-lmtn.wellington.clix.net.nz (203.167.253.57) 9.896 ms 5 fe7-1-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz (203.96.151.1) 9.854 ms 6 fe0-0-0.kelly.paradise.net.nz (203.96.152.1) 10.499 ms 7 ipnet.ipnet2.paradise.net.nz (203.96.155.157) 11.460 ms 8 192.168.253.229 (192.168.253.229) 30.154 ms 9 203-79-66-5.adsl-wns.paradise.net.nz (203.79.66.5) 60.649 ms (there are also two additional paths if this were to fail). --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 05:10:23AM +1200, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
9345 (Paradise) are announing 203.79.64.0/18 to 4768 but it wasn't in their filter list (never has been)
203.79.64 has been part of our list for a very long time, however last week it got shorter (/19 -> /18) as the result of a new allocation. Our peers were notified of this change on Friday morning last week (AS4768 included).
I also note we receive this from 4763 (makes sense) but it's not in their filter list either...
I'll get that checked, thanks for pointing it out. Regards, Mark --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
[WARNNIG: My spelling thingo is busted, expect horrendous grammer and spelting errors!] On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:00:10PM +1200, Mark Seward wrote: 203.79.64 has been part of our list for a very long time, however last week it got shorter (/19 -> /18) as the result of a new allocation. Cool, very cool (why? see below). Our peers were notified of this change on Friday morning last week (AS4768 included). I only see a request for 203.79.96.0/20 --- not the entire supernet. There is no guarantee people will automagically see aggregatable chunks and do the aggregation themselves. > I also note we receive this from 4763 (makes sense) but it's > not in their filter list either... I'll get that checked, thanks for pointing it out. Oh, I wouldn't look too hard, it's already sorted in the 4768 filters. Something I'd like to point out here, what Paradise is doing is a _really_ good thing. Speaking from experience with 4768 we have tried really hard to only advertise the supernets with as little fragmentation as possible --- Paradise clearly are also putting in some effort here as have 4763. However, if you look at much of the NZ address space, its apparent most people either have no idea what they are doing or choose to be lazy (probably a bit of both) --- there are pleny of supernets which are advertised only as itsy bitsy little chunks, despite pleas that people address this situation (as either general messages such as this one or directed private requests). There are even those who choose to use the same ASN for completely different, but connected, autonomous systems (whether this is a good thing or not I'll leave for another thread) which makes trouble shooting extremely difficult (i.e. why does one AS<blah> router do X when another does Y sort of thing?). Anyhow, if this air of what could be construed as negativity, I would like to thank Mark and those others involved for putting the effort into doing this the 'right way' --- all these small efforts add up an make things much easier long term. --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
However, if you look at much of the NZ address space, its apparent most people either have no idea what they are doing or choose to be lazy (probably a bit of both) --- there are pleny of supernets which are advertised only as itsy bitsy little chunks, despite pleas that people address this situation (as either general messages such as this one or directed private requests).
Well we put a filter on anything longer than /24 from one large provider and chopped out a hundred (David has the exact number) advertisments. It was nice to seem them leaking a couple of /24s worth of /30s. We have been working to supernet a reasonable amount of what we have over the last year or so. We were quite bad and were getting into the top 10 of the cidr report. A bit of work has cut the prefixes we are advertising down a lot although since our network is physically messy we are limited as to how far we can go. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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