At 07:33 p.m. 26/02/2002 +1300, you wrote:

I'm sure this is a lot different for you as a primarily layer 2 provider, whereas people like us have to provide all sorts of crazy services, like MPLS VPN's, AVVID, etc over the circuits we provide to customers we have to have a lot more intelligence closer to the edge of the network than Citylink appears to be. So, whilst I agree that its about architectures, it's also about services. Some architectures are better than others for different things, but I guess you knew that.

yes - but I didn't want to get into that detail. Remember that in Wn we INSIST that a customer have a router at the edge. Its just that we make them buy it. THats because when we started (with $85K) routers were expensive and we avoided that outlay.. We still insist on routers and in AKL we provide them as a part of the connection. rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog