Sue Leader wrote:
Greetings
I have an inquiry to answer and am missing one essential piece of inforamtion. Can anyone tell me what the rationale was for having a second level domain (2LD) structure rather than a flat structure in .nz?
So that the address structure can be divided into things that humans can remember. Also the 2LD provides some clue as to the purpose of the organisation eg .mil. .gov. or .co. There are of course variations in between the USA (1LD) and ROW (2LD). .co - .com .govt - .gov .ac - .edu. NZ has an interesting variation of this at the 3LD level. the 3rd level domain called domainz.net.nz which is a loopback domain. This loopback feature has a unique feature based on the amount of SPAM created this particular domain, so SPAM sent to this particular domain is endlessly recycled permitting near perfect service levels when responding to SPAM. In order to cater for loopback domains, the 3LD known as domainz is permanently wired to ORBS, which is an interactive mail responder. This permits meaningful dialog between the loopback domain and SPAM origination. In order to avail themsleves of this wonderful service, most ISP's in this country have implemented RFC 42064.32 which adheres to the Irish variation of ORBS. This means that all communication from the loopback domain is directed via sendmail to /dev/null. Unfortunately Microsoft clients have no way of implementing this device, and are therefore forced forever to endure SPAM which commences "Domainz is considering changes to.......". There is unfortunately no way to ever leave this highly desirable email domain. Hope this helps.... Rgds Roger De Salis
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Roger De Salis wrote:
Sue Leader wrote:
Greetings
I have an inquiry to answer and am missing one essential piece of inforamtion. Can anyone tell me what the rationale was for having a second level domain (2LD) structure rather than a flat structure in .nz?
So that the address structure can be divided into things that humans can remember.
Except to note that it's not necessary and in fact simply causes confusion. For example, if you wanted to contact Paradise (the ISP) would you choose paradise.co.nz or paradise.net.nz? Now make the choice as a naive user. Is aix.net.nz the same entity as aix.co.nz? The list is endless. The rationale appears to me to be that we simply copied the names that had been use in the UK JANET network - .co, .govt and .ac and once the principle had been established we continued down the track with .net, .mil (copied from the US) and .gen, .school and .iwi (which we made up ourselves). With the benefit of hindsight I'd advocate that it's all a crock and a single domain, .nz is all we need. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Andy Linton wrote:
Except to note that it's not necessary and in fact simply causes confusion. For example, if you wanted to contact Paradise (the ISP) would you choose paradise.co.nz or paradise.net.nz? Now make the choice as a naive user.
Of course if they pick www.paradise.gen.nz then they might really have a problem.
With the benefit of hindsight I'd advocate that it's all a crock and a single domain, .nz is all we need.
It does have the advantage in letting "clashing" names have an alternative. This is especially good since if your name is Mcdonald or Harrods then if you take a .gen.nz or .org.nz domain then it is automaticly assumed to be personal rather than taking a shot at the big boys. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz System/Network Admin. | | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz Ihug Limited, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
It does have the advantage in letting "clashing" names have an alternative. This is especially good since if your name is Mcdonald or Harrods then if you take a .gen.nz or .org.nz domain then it is automaticly assumed to be personal rather than taking a shot at the big boys. Except Domainz has actively suggested that when companies register a 'presence' they get all combinations they are likely to ever want, ('clustering' is the world that was used I believe). Ultimately this serves nobody but the people getting money for registrations. Besides, I bet if you register coke.gen.nz and put a web site with a Pepsi logo on it, sooner or later you would get a nice letter from a lawyer or ten requested you remove it... it would be amusing though. --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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