After having a rather large and ever increasing number of customers complaining to us about increased traffic bills due to telecoms lack of peering, we have started down the road of "Lets simply block all telecom connected customer IP's at our International Border router" most of our customers so far have been agreeable to this strategy and I am wondering what the effect would be if everyone that peered at APE were to take a similar stance. Anyone think this may prompt telecom to peer if we say "we will allow you to send us national traffic only over agreed peering points yet not internationally" ? Just a thought.. -- Steve. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
After having a rather large and ever increasing number of customers complaining to us about increased traffic bills due to telecoms lack of peering, we have started down the road of "Lets simply block all telecom connected customer IP's at our International Border router" most of our customers so far have been agreeable to this strategy and I am wondering what the effect would be if everyone that peered at APE were to take a similar stance.
Sounds like a good idea to me, but isn't there some rules against this sort of action for members of ISOCNZ? Thou shalt not block traffic to resolve disputes or somethign similar. Or does that not apply here? :-) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
At 15:22 23/05/2001, David Anso wrote:
After having a rather large and ever increasing number of customers complaining to us about increased traffic bills due to telecoms lack of peering, we have started down the road of "Lets simply block all telecom connected customer IP's at our International Border router" most of our customers so far have been agreeable to this strategy and I am wondering what the effect would be if everyone that peered at APE were to take a similar stance.
Sounds like a good idea to me, but isn't there some rules against this sort of action for members of ISOCNZ? Thou shalt not block traffic to resolve disputes or somethign similar.
Or does that not apply here? :-)
who said anyone was blocking traffic ? all you are doing is stopping national traffic from flowing over your international link - I wasn't suggesting that we simply cut telecom off, just that we ask that they send their traffic over the mutually agreed peering points. -- Steve. -- Steve Phillips, Systems Admin, Asia Online NZ Ltd -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CS/CC d- s+:- a- C++++(---)$ UL++++$ UB++++$ US++++$ UC++++$ P+ L+++$ E- W-(+) N+$ w$ O V PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5+++ tv++ b+ G e+>* h r--- z+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To decode see http://www.ebb.org/ungeek/ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Steve Phillips
After having a rather large and ever increasing number of customers complaining to us about increased traffic bills due to telecoms lack of peering, we have started down the road of "Lets simply block all telecom connected customer IP's at our International Border router" most of our customers so far have been agreeable to this strategy and I am wondering what the effect would be if everyone that peered at APE were to take a similar stance.
Anyone think this may prompt telecom to peer if we say "we will allow you to send us national traffic only over agreed peering points yet not internationally" ?
It seems to me rather more likely to make your own customers grumpy, when they can't reach sites in Telecom-land, or if Telecom customers can't reach sites belonging to your customers. -- don --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Would there be many ISP's up at APE that would be prepared to pay a nominal
amount to carry transit traffic to and from the Telecom network?
If an ISP is only connected via Clear and the APE for example, we could
offer to advertise all the Telecom networks to that customer via APE for a
small fee.
It's cheaper than getting a connection to Telecom directly I guess, so
someone might want to do this.
Additionally, there must be a number of other ISP's up at APE that have high
speed connections to Telecom (e.g. IHUG) that could offer to do a similar
thing.
Cheers
Seeby
Orcon Internet - www.orcon.net.nz
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From: "Steve Phillips"
After having a rather large and ever increasing number of customers complaining to us about increased traffic bills due to telecoms lack of peering, we have started down the road of "Lets simply block all telecom connected customer IP's at our International Border router" most of our customers so far have been agreeable to this strategy and I am wondering what the effect would be if everyone that peered at APE were to take a similar stance.
Anyone think this may prompt telecom to peer if we say "we will allow you to send us national traffic only over agreed peering points yet not internationally" ?
Just a thought..
-- Steve.
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On Wed, 23 May 2001, Seeby Woodhouse - Orcon wrote:
It's cheaper than getting a connection to Telecom directly I guess, so someone might want to do this. Additionally, there must be a number of other ISP's up at APE that have high speed connections to Telecom (e.g. IHUG) that could offer to do a similar thing.
From a purely technical standpoint, I can't see any reason why I couldn't
<thinks> transit traffic to and from Netgate to APE. Of course, having management agree to this might be another matter. I'll ask. David Robb --- Senior Network Engineer IHUG NZ "The Earth is a single point of failure" --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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