Questions for NZNOG: In a new apartment building with CAT5 run from each unit to a central closet, installed by the developers, who owns the CAT5? If the CAT5 is the property of the building body corporate, is it permissable for an alternative network operator to install their own mini-DSLAM, and provide alternative DSL to building occupants? If this unit is not using Telecom lines, does it need to be Telepermit approved? If competitive DSL is run over spare pairs (not in use by TelecomNZ), will there be any implications for residents who subscribe to JetStream? Am I going to end up in pain for asking these questions? Cheers, Jon
Hi Jon, Unless it has been run for a Telco the cable will belong to whoever installs it, or in this case transferred to the body corporate. You can run whatever you like over this as it is essentially a private network i.e like any corporate. It would need to connect to your upstream Telco provider by an approved termination point i.e NTU device. In NZ the internal building cable does not automatically become part of the network or require certification unlike some other countries. Re Spare pairs as long as there is not interference, as this is off Telecoms network on the other side of their demarcation point typically being the exchange side of your building frame. Or another way of putting it is if there is interference and the Telco proves it to their frame then it is up to the internal building cable owners to resolve. My take on it. Cheers Graeme. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Brewer [mailto:jon.brewer(a)worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:28 PM To: 'nznog' Subject: [nznog] Alternative DSL? Questions for NZNOG: In a new apartment building with CAT5 run from each unit to a central closet, installed by the developers, who owns the CAT5? If the CAT5 is the property of the building body corporate, is it permissable for an alternative network operator to install their own mini-DSLAM, and provide alternative DSL to building occupants? If this unit is not using Telecom lines, does it need to be Telepermit approved? If competitive DSL is run over spare pairs (not in use by TelecomNZ), will there be any implications for residents who subscribe to JetStream? Am I going to end up in pain for asking these questions? Cheers, Jon
My understanding is that it is illegal for gas/electricity companies
to be specified unless it is deemed an "embedded network" in which
case it is the building manager which resells the electricity (e.g.
they buy off Genesis/Contact etc and then rebill the apartment
dwellers).
I work in the utility sector but these views do not represent the
views of my employer and are not necessarily legally accurate.
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:08:30 +1300, Regan Murphy
I read a contract for a development in Auckland recently. There was a clause regarding services that stated that the purchaser must purchase electricity/gas/water from the company that the developers specify. There was also a clause that made it compulsory for future buyers to agree to this too. It may or may not have extended this to other services - I'm not sure - this development also had cat-5 cabled throughout and mentioned broadband internet access as an available service. This clause, among others, put me off investing in the development.
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