Hi Geoff / NZNOG My observation is that the operators with large Fixed Broadband market share in New Zealand see the "Big Streamers" as the reason why their customers subscribe to broadband , to the degree that they promote their broadband products with free subscription to popular content providers or a local version. I'm not sure if all operators share this sentiment though. The other observations is this dare I say ... European vs American big streamers, and European vs Apple Lightning port Another opinion on the subject is in this recent article https://www.totaltele.com/513531/NGOs-oppose-European-telcos-calls-for-tech-... Regards Ahmad Saeed Wireline Networks Product Manager    Mobile +64 (0) 21 877794    Huawei Technologies (NZ) Co. Ltd. Level 23, Huawei Centre, 120 Albert Street, Auckland CBD, New Zealand Web:    www.huawei.com This e-mail and its attachments may contain privileged, confidential or copyright information from HUAWEI. Any use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by phone or e-mail and delete it immediately. -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Huston [mailto:gih(a)apnic.net] Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2022 9:04 AM To: NZNOG Subject: [nznog] seeking info on NZ Broadband Hi NZNOG folk, I was reading an ETNO report about problems with Broadband deployment in Europe (https://www.etno.eu/news/all-news/8-news/742-8-questions-fair-contribution.h...) and similar issues in Korea, where the carriers are advancing the proposition “the big streamers should pay”. But I also read somewhere that NZ in well underway with Gbps consumer services and there seems to be no such problems from the carriers in NZ. I know it's a very generic question, but I was wondering, what is the current picture on price and performance of retail fibre broadband services in New Zealand? thanks, Geoff _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list -- nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To unsubscribe send an email to nznog-leave(a)list.waikato.ac.nz