Can we please *TRY* and keep this list somewhat on topic.. Conversations about the following, are totally off topic. 1) net4u - we have heard enough. 2) domains registered by will steele - they have been taken care of, we all read it in the herald. 3) anything relating to sahil Just remember this list is geared around "network operators" - Please try and keep it to topics that network operators actually care about. Some examples for your benefit would be.. 1) policy changes? 2) BGP Updates? 3) Notifications? 4) coversations between operators? 5) ideas of interest? 6) questions relating to the operation of certain networks? I'm sure there are other topics that could be added to the above list. Can someone of authority please clean this list up, issue some warnings perhaps.. Some of the posts to this list are pretty pathetic.. If you have an issue with a domain registered, please contact those who can actually be of assistance to you. The rest of the list does not care.. Thanks for all your time, this will be my last post on this subject. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)networkstuff.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2004 6:06 p.m. To: Tim John - Domainz Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] DONALD! Umm.. something is very wrong here. Thanks for the information Tim. Would "passing off" of a well known industry forum like NZNOG be considered "extreme (enough) circumstances"? Does the DNC need a complaint in writing to action this? As for Will, go and sort it out with Sahil seeing that the pair of you are friends again. The rest of us don't care.

From the Domainz point of view, the only person who can legally cancel a domain name is the Name Holder. The DNC has the liberty to instruct us to cancel a name and Domainz itself has the right to terminate a registration, but only in extreme circumstances.

I suspect that this and many other names have been registered 'for a laugh' in the past and the details used in the registration are real, if not the registrants. If the person who is nominated in the registration as the Name Holder is not in fact the legal holder, then the best thing to do is let the name expire when it comes up for renewal, unless the Name Holder (as shown) can contact us directly and request that it's cancelled.

Tim

-----Original Message----- From: Will Steele [mailto:willsteele(a)hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2004 5:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: [nznog] DONALD! Umm.. something is very wrong here.

Michael,

1) I am not employed or associated with ConceptNET as you suggested in your December post. 2) I believe it is against the Shared Registry's Terms of Service to use the

whois for this sort of thing. 3) Domains are registered at a first come, first serve basis.

The above domain was registered on the 28th March 2003, when I was being very stupid and immature, which I am (slowly) overcoming, but you don't seem

to be helping.

Please send me proof that Sahil is making these claims off list, or send anyone else the proof for that matter, because simply, you are generally full of shit. Get your facts straight before you post.

If anyone from Domainz is subscribed to this list, or the DNC, please cancel

the above domain, as I no longer have access to it, otherwise, its there to stay until it expires...

And no, I'm not smiling.

Will Steele "^god"

_________________________________________________________________ Check out the Xtra gaming servers at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming !

_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

DISCLAIMER: The content of this email is confidential and may contain legally privileged information intended only for the individual or entity named above. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that the use, distribution and publication of the above information is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact Domainz by returning the email and destroying the original. Thank you. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

-- // Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work. URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624 _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

Craig Spiers wrote:

Can we please *TRY* and keep this list somewhat on topic..

Conversations about the following, are totally off topic.

1) net4u - we have heard enough. 2) domains registered by will steele - they have been taken care of, we all read it in the herald. 3) anything relating to sahil

Just remember this list is geared around "network operators" - Please try and keep it to topics that network operators actually care about. Some examples for your benefit would be..

1) policy changes? 2) BGP Updates? 3) Notifications? 4) coversations between operators? 5) ideas of interest? 6) questions relating to the operation of certain networks?

I'm sure there are other topics that could be added to the above list.

Can someone of authority please clean this list up, issue some warnings perhaps.. Some of the posts to this list are pretty pathetic.. If you have an issue with a domain registered, please contact those who can actually be of assistance to you. The rest of the list does not care..

Thanks for all your time, this will be my last post on this subject.

Isn't there anything in the list AUP against full-quoting top-posters? -- Juha