Heads up - LOTR STreaming Event
CityLink is assisting with the streaming of a Video Conference between Richard Taylor (Weta FX) and a number of schools on Wednesday. The event co-ordinators (TKI) have emailed a number of schools and hence this heads up. There is the potential for a large number of unicast streams from WIX on Wednesday morning 12 March between 10am and 11am. Here is the publicity material from TKI for those interested. Kia ora koutou TKI invites you to join us for the live video conference featuring Richard Taylor - the Oscar-winning special effects expert from the Lord of the Rings. This Wednesday between 10 and 11am, selected KAWM and Otago Net schools will be participating in a video-conference based conversation with Richard. To watch the live simulcast, click on the link below: http://www.tki.org.nz/r/school_improvement/climate/intro_taylor_e.php -------------- ABOUT THE VIDEO CONFERENCE The schools involved in the Richard Taylor video conference are: Turakina Maori Girls' College (Marton) Rotorua Lakes High (Rotorua) John Paul College (Rotorua) Rotorua Girls High (Rotorua) Mount Aspiring College (Wanaka) Te Waha o Rerekohu Area School (Gisborne) Te Wharekura o Rakaumanga (Huntly) Te Kura Kaupapa Maori o Mana Tamariki (Palmerston North) Each of the schools will make a presentation to Richard on the theme "special effects". The students were guided by activities suggested in a teaching resource developed by the Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa to complement The Lord of the Rings Motion Picture Trilogy - The Exhibition. ------------ ABOUT RICHARD TAYLOR Richard Taylor is the co-founder and director of Weta Workshop Ltd, the special effects company best known for its work on The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Weta designed and produced all the weapons, armour, creatures, makeup, and miniature models for the film production.
At 17:05 10/03/2003, Richard Naylor wrote:
CityLink is assisting with the streaming of a Video Conference between Richard Taylor (Weta FX) and a number of schools on Wednesday. The event co-ordinators (TKI) have emailed a number of schools and hence this heads up. There is the potential for a large number of unicast streams
What happened to multicast..? David? Bart Bart Kindt Director, The Internet Group Limited New Zealand
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Bart Kindt wrote:
CityLink is assisting with the streaming of a Video Conference between Richard Taylor (Weta FX) and a number of schools on Wednesday. The event co-ordinators (TKI) have emailed a number of schools and hence this heads up. There is the potential for a large number of unicast streams
What happened to multicast..? David?
I've tried a few times to get multicast happening, but due to software or business limitations I'm yet to get a major provider to support multicast out to the end user. :) Still working on it though. Anyone else out there still interested, or does everyone have enough national bandwidth these days that they don't see it as an issue? --David Robb
What happened to multicast..? David?
I've tried a few times to get multicast happening, but due to software or business limitations I'm yet to get a major provider to support multicast out to the end user. :)
Still working on it though.
Anyone else out there still interested, or does everyone have enough national bandwidth these days that they don't see it as an issue?
Yes .. I'm interested still, but things like only 24 hours in a day type things are a killer. But there are a few "issues" like Multicast is not available on Jetstream/Jetstart/IP.Networking or Modem IPNET. I remember the 1st time I got "into it". (Multicazt) I think I was one of the "2" connected sites at the picture at http://www.stones.com/retro/mbone/. (that was when ICONZ's (ICONZ' ??) total connection to the internet was 256Kbps or slower) Thanks Craig Whitmore Orcon Internet
--David Robb
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What happened to multicast..? David?
I've tried a few times to get multicast happening, but due to software or business limitations I'm yet to get a major provider to support multicast out to the end user. :)
Still working on it though.
Anyone else out there still interested, or does everyone have enough national bandwidth these days that they don't see it as an issue?
Yes .. I'm interested still, but things like only 24 hours in a day type things are a killer. But there are a few "issues" like Multicast is not available on Jetstream/Jetstart/IP.Networking or Modem IPNET. I remember the 1st time I got "into it". (Multicazt) I think I was one of the "2" connected sites at the picture at http://www.stones.com/retro/mbone/. (that was when ICONZ's (ICONZ' ??) total connection to the internet was 256Kbps or slower) Thanks Craig Whitmore Orcon Internet
--David Robb
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What happened to multicast..? David?
I've tried a few times to get multicast happening, but due to software or business limitations I'm yet to get a major provider to support multicast out to the end user. :)
Still working on it though.
Anyone else out there still interested, or does everyone have enough national bandwidth these days that they don't see it as an issue?
Yes .. I'm interested still, but things like only 24 hours in a day type things are a killer.
But there are a few "issues" like Multicast is not available on Jetstream/Jetstart/IP.Networking or Modem IPNET.
I remember the 1st time I got "into it". (Multicazt) I think I was one of the "2" connected sites at the picture at http://www.stones.com/retro/mbone/. (that was when ICONZ's (ICONZ' ??) total connection to the internet was 256Kbps or slower)
Speaking of mbone stuff, skanky old Domainz want $61 for mbone.net.nz,
and due to my current state of brokeness I'm going to cancel it. If
anyone wants to take it over for future stuff then this is a heads up.
--
James Tyson
James Tyson wrote:
Speaking of mbone stuff, skanky old Domainz want $61 for mbone.net.nz, and due to my current state of brokeness I'm going to cancel it.
You can renew for a *lot* less that than these days. regards -- Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2DAY INTERNET LIMITED http://www.2day.com "Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something!" Thomas A Edison
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, David Robb wrote:
Anyone else out there still interested, or does everyone have enough national bandwidth these days that they don't see it as an issue?
Very funny. I think it's not a big problem right now cause there isn't much content and most users are limited to 128kb/s . On the other hand if affordable DSL (jetstream not jetstart prices) was available at say 256-512 kb/s and (say) NZ Onair decided to do a little NZ Music channel (hint hint) things could get tight quickly. Realisticly expecting more than 1000 people to access something like with the current NZ backbone would be very scary. Even a 64kb/s audio-only stream going be a little ugly, no reason why that many people in the South Island might not want to listen to an Auckland radio station. Is there any popular and legal content out there? -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz Ihug Ltd, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Simon Lyall wrote:
Very funny. I think it's not a big problem right now cause there isn't much content and most users are limited to 128kb/s .
That's actually what I meant. Given the number of users who'll probably be watching the feed, the time of day its on, and the amount of bandwidth people _do_ have (ok, no-one has terabits of capacity, but we all have _some_), then it's not really a problem. This is one of the issues with getting multicast deployed in an ISP style environment - the question of why bother? --David Robb
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, David Robb wrote:
Anyone else out there still interested, or does everyone have enough national bandwidth these days that they don't see it as an issue?
National bandwidth is plentiful _now_, but once there's significant point-to-multipoint content out there (that the public can freely access, and _does_ freely access) all those nice 100(0)Mbits/sec peering links are going to fill. Fast. Multicast definitely has a place in the content-delivery market. ICONZ is very interested in proceeding with, and assisting with, any future trials. JSR -- John S Russell | Big Geek | Doing geek stuff.
At 10:20 a.m. 11/03/2003 +1300, J S Russell wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, David Robb wrote:
Anyone else out there still interested, or does everyone have enough national bandwidth these days that they don't see it as an issue?
National bandwidth is plentiful _now_, but once there's significant point-to-multipoint content out there (that the public can freely access, and _does_ freely access) all those nice 100(0)Mbits/sec peering links are going to fill. Fast.
Multicast definitely has a place in the content-delivery market.
(sorry to use your comment as the reply JSR - not picking on you) A couple of comments from the mail on the subject, For the last few events I've streamed, I have added higher and higher bandwidth streams to see who watches. Interesting. In Nov 2002 I did a 56k and 128k in Wgtn during the business day. Consistently we had twice as many 128k viewers as 56k viewers. The subject was genetic tinkering, hosted by Te Papa. Dec 2002 - LOTR street event. We ran 56k, 128k and 384k - we had equal numbers on all 3 streams. Yes 100+ viewers at 384k. I'm not sure if this reflects the availability of bandwidth in Wn, but we do know that a big screen at the Viaduct in AKL was showing the 384k LOTR stream. The 384 LOTR stream tapered off after 5pm and the 56k one picked up about 30 minutes after. I guess people went home........ We have stress tested our servers with a simulator and can serve 1500+ users at 384k. The servers are on GbE and the router can do close to that. A second server will be on APE as soon as I get left alone long enough. So we can serve a creditable viewer base on today's networks. But the big unknown market is the video on demand. - We have this going as well and it shifts serious amounts of data. I had to shift the servers when my I$P changed their national traffic charges. Multicasting doesn't help VOD out at all. But the coolest multicast stuff is the access grid. THats one of the few applications where multicast rules. But we have none in NZ yet.......... rich
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Bart Kindt -
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David Robb -
J S Russell -
James Tyson -
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Richard Naylor -
Simon Lyall