Ok first off let me advise I'm usually a lurker but this case has me beat and I also need to confess to being no great
expert on running an email server...
Client A reports email missing from Client B - A is using an email address on my mail server office(a)srt.co.nz (not the
actual address) . B claims he is sending his email from MT(a)hotmail.co.nz ... not ever having heard of a .nz suffix for
Hotmail I tried to traceroute it - it doesn't resolve to anything "unable to resolve target system name hotmail.co.nz.
B insists that is his email address and that email gets to him ... after getting him to email me directly 1 checked the
email headers and noted the received from bay0-omc4-s4.bay0.hotmail.com - in fact the only mention of hotmail.co.nz is
where B has presumably set up his email client...
Question How is email getting to him at all - is there some sort of wizardry going on that resolves hotmail.co.nz to
hotmail.com that is not apparent when checking DNS , tracerouting or trying to browse to hotmail.co.nz?
-------- Original Message --------
From: - Sat Jul 09 13:58:45 2011
X-Account-Key: account7
X-UIDL: 00004d2c48c5dd89
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Return-Path:
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Phonenet < phonenet(a)phonenet.in-newzealand.com> wrote:
Question How is email getting to him at all - is there some sort of wizardry going on that resolves hotmail.co.nz to hotmail.com that is not apparent when checking DNS , tracerouting or trying to browse to hotmail.co.nz?
Not sure if an MX record counts as wizardry these days, but: dig +short hotmail.co.nz mx 5 mx1.hotmail.com. 5 mx2.hotmail.com. 5 mx3.hotmail.com. 5 mx4.hotmail.com. Druidry perhaps?
Yes (for me and probably works for everyone else in NZ who has a hotmail.com account ) sending email to user(a)hotmail.co.nz goes to user(a)hotmail.com. I guess as they know I'm in NZ they do this automatically.
I've found no way to send FROM lennonnz(a)hotmail.co.nz from the webmail tho.
From: Mike Cooper
Umm, yes. It's called an "MX Record". scott(a)zaphod:~$ dig +short mx hotmail.co.nz 5 mx3.hotmail.com. 5 mx4.hotmail.com. 5 mx1.hotmail.com. 5 mx2.hotmail.com. Scott. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Phonenet < phonenet(a)phonenet.in-newzealand.com> wrote:
Ok first off let me advise I'm usually a lurker but this case has me beat and I also need to confess to being no great expert on running an email server...
Client A reports email missing from Client B - A is using an email address on my mail server office(a)srt.co.nz (not the actual address) . B claims he is sending his email from MT(a)hotmail.co.nz ... not ever having heard of a .nz suffix for Hotmail I tried to traceroute it - it doesn't resolve to anything "unable to resolve target system name hotmail.co.nz.
B insists that is his email address and that email gets to him ... after getting him to email me directly 1 checked the email headers and noted the received from bay0-omc4-s4.bay0.hotmail.com - in fact the only mention of hotmail.co.nz is where B has presumably set up his email client...
Question How is email getting to him at all - is there some sort of wizardry going on that resolves hotmail.co.nz to hotmail.com that is not apparent when checking DNS , tracerouting or trying to browse to hotmail.co.nz?
-------- Original Message -------- From: - Sat Jul 09 13:58:45 2011 X-Account-Key: account7 X-UIDL: 00004d2c48c5dd89 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path:
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on webhostnz.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Original-To: webmaster(a)webhostnz.com Delivered-To: webmaster.webhostnz(a)mail.**webhostnz.com Received: from mail.webhostnz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.webhostnz.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE4D81AF for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:41:23 +1200 (NZST) Received: by mail.webhostnz.com (Postfix, from userid 5001) id C5D568351; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:41:23 +1200 (NZST) Received: from bay0-omc4-s4.bay0.hotmail.com ( bay0-omc4-s4.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.206]) by mail.webhostnz.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20E181AF for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:41:22 +1200 (NZST) Received: from BAY149-W43 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 8 Jul 2011 02:40:49 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [122.60.137.225] From: MT To: SW , Subject: RE: SRT missing emails Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:40:49 +1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0868FD19-959C-4475-B3E9-**6BA3D617A6E2(a)paradise.net.nz<0868FD19-959C-4475-B3E9-6BA3D617A6E2(a)paradise.net.nz> References: <4E169A42.5010800(a)webhostnz.**com <4E169A42.5010800(a)webhostnz.com>>,< 9081134D-532B-4302-93DB-**0135BAA6A218(a)paradise.net.nz<9081134D-532B-4302-93DB-0135BAA6A218(a)paradise.net.nz>
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,<0868FD19-959C-4475- **B3E9-6BA3D617A6E2(a)paradise.**net.nz<0868FD19-959C-4475-B3E9-6BA3D617A6E2(a)paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2011 09:40:49.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EA34C20:01CC3D53] X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 9.0.901 [271.1.1/3750] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-** 3A4A79CC=======" <<END>>
Happy to receive replies direct...
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Thanks to those who have sent replies... I _DID_ say I was no expert so thinking of checking MX records and using Whois don't spring to my mind as quickly as for those who deal with these sorts of things regularly. Since I've already checked the logs and noted no trace of these emails arriving or of their having been processed for A I have too assume they disappeared into the ether (or were sent to a wrong address or were never sent in the first place). Thanks again Ian
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Craig Whitmore
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Mike Cooper
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Phonenet
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Scott Howard