Yeah yeah ... we're all telling the Service Providers that Broadband is critical, but that still doesn't change the fact that ATM aggregation, ADSL/FR access, legacy support, and the ability to run a fair bit of point-to-point bandwidth over an STM-4 ATM access is still quite attractive for a market like NZ. And being one who had to fight VERY hard to get POS inside a certain Telco here at all, I would love to see more widespread use of it. STM/4 ATM gives my customers what they want and need, not what I want to sell !!! Arron Scott -----Original Message----- From: dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz [mailto:dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz] Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 4:45 p.m. To: Scott, Arron Cc: Joe Abley; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 I'd rather sell something that had a future, and not cripple networking in NZ any more than it already is. No matter how much easier it made the sale. Customers listen to what vendors have to say. Vendors should be telling them the truth, not just what they think will make the sale. Long live POS =) Dean Not speaking for, or about, any company in particular On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:01:55PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote:

ATM is FAR WORSE than that, but it helps sell stuff in New Zealand ;-)

Arron Scott Not speaking for any company in particular

-----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 3:49 a.m. To: Scott, Arron Cc: Dennis Su; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500

On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:09PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote:

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Now we just need a Telco or three in NZ to support ATM at STM-4 rates.

Is anybody really waiting for that? If you're shifting an STM-4s worth of data around, it's probably a stream of packets, and it's probably IP, and you probably want to use POS. You probably don't want the additional complexity, cost, operational overhead, cell tax and SAR latency that using ATM would involve.

Also, ATM is the work of Satan, which should be mentioned, for the record.

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