I'm getting these too. Same goes - nothing domain specific. Regards Edward Edan NET. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Clark To: barry(a)unix.co.nz ; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [nznog] Fwd: 100,000 Reasons ... yes, exactly the same message, maybe even one per domain, but yes as you mentioned none actually noting the domain. about a week ago now. hrmm Regards Dan Clark Network Manager Scarfies.Net Ltd ----- Original Message ----- From: barry(a)unix.co.nz To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: [nznog] Fwd: 100,000 Reasons ... Anyone else receiving spam which "is not part of a mass mailout" ? They even fail to refer to which domain I should keep with domainz, as far as I know I have moved my domains over to orcon almost a month ago. Barry ----- Forwarded message from Domainz(a)domainz.net.nz ----- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:39:53 +1200 From: Domainz(a)domainz.net.nz Reply-To: Domainz(a)domainz.net.nz Subject: 100,000 Reasons ... To: blacklabel(a)orcon.net.nz This email has been sent directly to 'blacklabel(a)orcon.net.nz' and is not part of a mass mailout. ----- http://www.domainz.net.nz http://www.domainz.net.nz http://www.domainz.net.nz/ http://www.domainz.net.nz You now have a choice of registrars to manage your domain name requirements. At Domainz, we've registered more than 100,000 .nz domain names over the past six years, making us the specialists. So while you now have a choice, we think it's best exercised by doing nothing! That way you can ensure Domainz remains your registrar. Why stay with Domainz? Because your domain name is a valuable asset that needs to be properly protected and managed. We're New Zealand's most experienced and expert domain name registrar - and that makes us the people you should rely on for top service and best value for money. Domain names are our speciality! What else do I get by doing nothing? We are now able to offer you other services alongside your domain name registration. Right now, you can have: * Domain name parking - domain name reservation *FREE* * Website redirection - redirection of your website traffic so you can have it managed wherever you want *FREE* * Email forwarding - we can redirect your email to wherever you want *FREE* * Email hosting - we'll manage your whole email system using our facilities * Web hosting - we'll do the same with your website Domainz offers all of our services in a range of packages designed to fit the differing requirements of our customers. What will I miss if I act now? Remember, there's no need to do anything - and we strongly advise that you don't! Very soon we'll be offering a range of new products and services, including: * More billing and payment options - including variable registration periods for domain names * Registration of international domain names - such as .com, .net and .ws But if I need to know more! If you would simply like to discuss your domain name needs or find out more information, then email us by clicking here . You can also ring us on 0800 366 2469 or visit our website, www.domainz.net.nz http://www.domainz.net.nz/ . We'd like to join you in doing nothing... but we're busy. Because we value your business, doing nothing isn't an option for us. We're busy working on new and better ways to make managing your domain name easier and more cost effective! Thanks for registering your domain name with us. We intend to keep making it worth your while - to do nothing at all. Derek Locke and the team at Domainz To unsubscribe from future emails of this nature from Domainz, click here . ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

Does Domainz have the right to communicate with its clients? If you use Domainz as your Registrar, they have the right to communicate with you, right? The OpenSRS was implimented some time back; Its approaching the stage where everyone who had a domain prior to the OpenSRS has probably had their yearly rollover; and as a result has had opportunity to change registrar when renewing. I don't see anything wrong with Domainz communicating with people who have *chosen* to remain with them. ? (Opinions are mine and mine alone... etc)

On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 01:14:43PM +1200, barry(a)unix.co.nz wrote:

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Anyone else receiving spam which "is not part of a mass mailout"?

Yes.

I see no tick box under domainz where it says I wish to receive emails from them, so this is spam to me, even though they had an unsubscribe link in the footer of their email. From what the way they word the emails, they saying they have been in the domain registry for years and that you should stick with them, this just shows how they are using their old monopoly. I think they are targeting the n00b's out there that think the email was sent directly to them one by one, as they mention it's not a mass mailout when it actually was. I received a reply from my NZnog post for starting this thread and this is what they had to say. <quote> On the 29th July you should receive an email from the Domain Name Commissioner asking you to choose a new Registrar as part of the new competitive market for .nz domain names. We are sending this email to all our direct customers as we would like to continue as your Registrar. </quote> so it _WAS_ a mass mailout if they sending it to all their direct customers. I didn't wish to be a customer of theirs when registering the domain, but there was no other option at the time. I didn't see myself as a customer, but rather as a peasant forced to use their service. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Foster" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [nznog] [OT] Fwd: 100,000 Reasons ...

Does Domainz have the right to communicate with its clients?

If you use Domainz as your Registrar, they have the right to communicate with you, right? The OpenSRS was implimented some time back; Its approaching the stage where everyone who had a domain prior to the OpenSRS has probably had their yearly rollover; and as a result has had opportunity to change registrar when renewing. I don't see anything wrong with Domainz communicating with people who have *chosen* to remain with them. ? (Opinions are mine and mine alone... etc)

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 01:14:43PM +1200, barry(a)unix.co.nz wrote:

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Anyone else receiving spam which "is not part of a mass mailout"?

Yes.

Peter Macaulay wrote:

Don't whinge. If you don't like 'em move! Then they won't send you any emails at all.

Well, that may not be true. Back in March Domainz emailed a bunch of registrants they were not the registrar for. For details on this check out http://www.nznews.org.nz/2003/03/04.html Steven Heath .nz news & views