http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?thesection=technology&thesubsection=&storyID=3251095 The latter of the guys mentioned in the above story i believe works at net4u. He is the helpdesk manager. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com