As a NZ domain holder, I am unimpressed by the apparent inability of the Council of ISOCNZ to require Domainz to carry out the policies it is supposed to and I am also unimpressed by the failure of the Board of Domainz in ensuring that the policies of ISOCNZ are carried out. I and a number of others have requested the introduction of a whois server that allows access to the data on the ISOCNZ NZ Registry that is operated on the Society's behalf by their operating company Domainz. This is consistent with the requirement stated in the Council's policy on New Zealand's Domain Name Structure. In that document (http://www.mcs.vuw.ac.nz/~hine/ISOCNZ/DNS/DNpolicy-8-97.html#SecondLevel) the section "Use of Information Gathered" the first paragraph says: 'Information is gathered in order to provide a public name listing service in line with other Internet domain name registry services world-wide.' Other registry services world-wide implement a whois service as well as a web-based service as a matter of course. I understand that the Council of the Society has instructed Domainz to implement such a server. Can you give an indication of when this service will be available? I also note that a name for this service is listed in the DNS. It is confusing to have this name there and then not have a service running. The details are below. whois.domainz.net.nz -> 202.46.160.18 -> www-wlg.domainz.net.nz Can you ensure that either the service that this host name purports to implement is commenced or that this host name is removed? --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Andy Linton
I also note that a name for this service is listed in the DNS. It is confusing to have this name there and then not have a service running. The details are below.
whois.domainz.net.nz -> 202.46.160.18 -> www-wlg.domainz.net.nz
Can you ensure that either the service that this host name purports to implement is commenced or that this host name is removed?
What on earth are you talking about? toyunix% whois -h whois.domainz.net.nz daedalus.co.nz % Domainz D.R.S. Automated Registrar Interface % D.R.S. users confirm on submission their agreement to all published Terms % Last revision: 22-02-2000 - DRS-RL-v1.00 % domain_name_status: 01 Current registrar: UNALLOCATED domain_name: daedalus.co.nz domain_datecreated: 13/08/97 domain_datelastmodified: 29/09/99 holder_name: Don Stokes ... -- don --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Don Stokes wrote:
Andy Linton
wrote: I also note that a name for this service is listed in the DNS. It is confusing to have this name there and then not have a service running. The details are below.
whois.domainz.net.nz -> 202.46.160.18 -> www-wlg.domainz.net.nz
Can you ensure that either the service that this host name purports to implement is commenced or that this host name is removed?
What on earth are you talking about?
My apologies! I'm using the RIPE whois client and it never returns when I type: whois -h whois.domainz.net.nz lionra.net.nz although it's quite able to talk to other whois servers around the planet. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Andy Linton
My apologies! I'm using the RIPE whois client and it never returns when I type:
whois -h whois.domainz.net.nz lionra.net.nz
although it's quite able to talk to other whois servers around the planet.
OK, I was kinda intrigued about this one. So I downloaded the RIPE stuff and had a play. It seems that the RIPE whois terminates its query with a single LF, not CRLF as as the Domainz server is expecting. From tcpdump: 17:02:01.058956 toyunix.zl2tnm.gen.nz.62311 > www-wlg.domainz.net.nz.whois: P 1: 16(15) ack 1 win 17520 4500 0037 d189 0000 4006 7d4c c0a8 0102 ca2e a012 f367 002b 3d2b 3c24 0827 44dd 5018 4470 cec9 0000 6461 6564 616c 7573 2e63 6f2e 6e7a 0a (for those who don't read hex, that's <ip-header> <tcp header> "daedalus.co.nz\n" No "\r". I suspect the Domainz server is waiting for the CR not the LF. I'm amazed. I didn't think it was possible to screw up the whois protocol, much less have an outfit like RIPE do it. From RFC 954: PROTOCOL To access the NICNAME/WHOIS server: Connect to the SRI-NIC service host at TCP service port 43 (decimal). Send a single "command line", ending with <CRLF> (ASCII CR and LF). Receive information in response to the command line. The server closes its connection as soon as the output is finished. Anyway, I'll pop a note to the developers suggesting that they accept any control character as the terminator for the query string. The right thing to do is of course to fix the RIPT whois client. Just change: print WHOIS_S $string, "\n"; to print WHOIS_S $string, "\r\n"; in src/whois.pl and re-install. (mutter mutter Perl hackers mutter mutter) -- don --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Don Stokes wote
I didn't think it was possible to screw up the whois protocol, much less have an outfit like RIPE do it.
Ah, of course, silly moi. It's not BUFFOONZ but RIPE who's out of step with the rest of the world. I should have known ;) Robert Gray bob(a)r-gray.com Phone +64 9 233 6201, Fax +64 9 233 6207, Mob +64 25 971 860 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
"Robert Gray"
It's not BUFFOONZ but RIPE who's out of step with the rest of the world. I should have known ;)
Well, in this case, the RFCs are on Domainz's side, not RIPE's. Not to
mention every other whois client on the planet which sends CRLF at the
ends of their queries, as required by reputable network protocols the
world over.
Andy Linton
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send"
Indeed, hence the suggestion that it be made to terminate on any control character. But I suspect that there are higher priorities at the moment than making the whois server talk to non-compliant clients. (It's not my code.) -- don --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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