Net outage last night?
Good Morning, At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about. Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue. I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office. Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre. Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well. Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one. Thanks, and kind regards.
How are you connected to Orcon? Dan Chris Hodgetts wrote:
Good Morning,
At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about.
Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue.
I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office.
Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre.
Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well.
Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one.
Thanks, and kind regards.
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Home both admins have Woosh, but our monitoring at both office and colo reported both sides were not contactable. At the office we have Vector fibre back to Orcon. So it might have been a Vector issues again, but only a fibre across the bridge? I am not sure how all that gets put together. On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 09:35 +1200, Dan Clark wrote:
How are you connected to Orcon?
Dan
Chris Hodgetts wrote:
Good Morning,
At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about.
Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue.
I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office.
Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre.
Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well.
Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one.
Thanks, and kind regards.
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
We have a number of racks at orcon and none of our reporting noticed
any outages.
However I'd like to hear from those that have seen international
speeds from orcon (corporate not dsl) colo or fiber slow right down.
We can download from debian mirrors in oz at 10mb , what we pay for ,
but anything to the states is slow as. Downloads of the same files or
iperfs from a box I have at compass I get about 40mb and the path is
the same across ANC.
Orcon suggest they can't find a issue, this has been going on for
months now.
Thanks
Barry murphy
On 4/09/2008, at 9:10 AM, Chris Hodgetts
Good Morning,
At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about.
Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue.
I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office.
Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre.
Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well.
Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one.
Thanks, and kind regards.
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
I am also noticing the slow down through orcon.. internationally..
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Murphy (iphone) [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz]
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 4:41 p.m.
To: Chris Hodgetts
Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] Net outage last night?
We have a number of racks at orcon and none of our reporting noticed
any outages.
However I'd like to hear from those that have seen international
speeds from orcon (corporate not dsl) colo or fiber slow right down.
We can download from debian mirrors in oz at 10mb , what we pay for ,
but anything to the states is slow as. Downloads of the same files or
iperfs from a box I have at compass I get about 40mb and the path is
the same across ANC.
Orcon suggest they can't find a issue, this has been going on for
months now.
Thanks
Barry murphy
On 4/09/2008, at 9:10 AM, Chris Hodgetts
Good Morning,
At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about.
Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue.
I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office.
Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre.
Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well.
Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one.
Thanks, and kind regards.
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
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As are we..... Particularly bad most of yesterday (Wednesday) Odd.. about you not having any issues... I cant think of where the issue might have been, as I from the shore could not get to Queen street (and I am on woosh) but could get to dc. Other Admin could get to Queen Street, but not to colo, and he was also on woosh, but it was not a woosh issue, because as I said, monitoring on both sides reported connectivity issues on the opposite site. Oh well, no biggie, it was not a HUGE outage, just a puzzling one. On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 16:42 +1200, Craig Spiers wrote:
I am also noticing the slow down through orcon.. internationally..
-----Original Message----- From: Barry Murphy (iphone) [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 4:41 p.m. To: Chris Hodgetts Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Net outage last night?
We have a number of racks at orcon and none of our reporting noticed any outages.
However I'd like to hear from those that have seen international speeds from orcon (corporate not dsl) colo or fiber slow right down.
We can download from debian mirrors in oz at 10mb , what we pay for , but anything to the states is slow as. Downloads of the same files or iperfs from a box I have at compass I get about 40mb and the path is the same across ANC.
Orcon suggest they can't find a issue, this has been going on for months now.
Thanks Barry murphy
On 4/09/2008, at 9:10 AM, Chris Hodgetts
wrote: Good Morning,
At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about.
Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue.
I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office.
Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre.
Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well.
Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one.
Thanks, and kind regards.
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
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I've had 6 independent reports from colo clients at orcon that
international has been almost unusable this week (like a few KB/s). Only
seems to be getting worse and ever since they put junipers in their core,
I'd say no one knows how to configure them properly. Many of the reports
I've had are large hosting companies, would be good to gauge how many
others have issues as orcon support are usless to the point of never
calling me and never admitting to faults.
LOTS of Beer to the one that can fix my international!
thanks
barry
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:42:19 +1200, "Craig Spiers"
I am also noticing the slow down through orcon.. internationally..
-----Original Message----- From: Barry Murphy (iphone) [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 4:41 p.m. To: Chris Hodgetts Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Net outage last night?
We have a number of racks at orcon and none of our reporting noticed any outages.
However I'd like to hear from those that have seen international speeds from orcon (corporate not dsl) colo or fiber slow right down.
We can download from debian mirrors in oz at 10mb , what we pay for , but anything to the states is slow as. Downloads of the same files or iperfs from a box I have at compass I get about 40mb and the path is the same across ANC.
Orcon suggest they can't find a issue, this has been going on for months now.
Thanks Barry murphy
On 4/09/2008, at 9:10 AM, Chris Hodgetts
wrote: Good Morning,
At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about.
Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue.
I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office.
Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre.
Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well.
Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one.
Thanks, and kind regards.
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Barry Murphy wrote:
I've had 6 independent reports from colo clients at orcon that international has been almost unusable this week (like a few KB/s). Only seems to be getting worse and ever since they put junipers in their core, I'd say no one knows how to configure them properly. Many of the reports I've had are large hosting companies, would be good to gauge how many others have issues as orcon support are usless to the point of never calling me and never admitting to faults.
1. Get a few people to install monitoring ( Remote sites checking several of their customers) so you know for sure when it is happening ( websitepulse.com is a good start ) 2. If the monitoring shows up these problems then start getting the people who pay the bills at your company to talk to Orcon about paying a smaller bill every time it happens. 3. Start looking at options for different providers 4. Consider moving to a colo where you can easily switch providers. Seriously, we've had people complaining about Orcon continuously for months here, if it's bad enough then there must be a few other companies willing to take your money. Obviously it's not putting any pressure on Orcon to fix it. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
Simon Lyall wrote:
Seriously, we've had people complaining about Orcon continuously for months here, if it's bad enough then there must be a few other companies willing to take your money. Obviously it's not putting any pressure on Orcon to fix it.
FWIW ... I use a supposedly 1Mbps Orcon sattelite service and, using Youtube as my download test, find I can get .7-1.5Mbps sustained download rates early morning ~4am-7am but only 200-300kbps most evenings. I've checked with consumerspeedtest.org.nz at times when the download is really slow and it tells me that I still have ~1Mpbs download rate so not sure where the bottleneck is. Given that Orcon or others seem to be pushing cheap sattelite service out to rural areas I don't expect performance to improve any time soon. Dave
Woosh have equipment in Northcote (Same room as some Orcon equipment, or at least that was the case in the past before Orcon moved in to their own DC - not sure if they kept equipment in the Vector room), perhaps they have private peering with Orcon there, and the Woosh Northcote <-> Sky Tower circuit(s) were down. I'm trying to remember, but I'm pretty sure we set up a peering session like that when I was at Woosh about 3 years ago. -- Nathan Ward
participants (8)
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Barry Murphy
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Barry Murphy (iphone)
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Chris Hodgetts
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Craig Spiers
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Dan Clark
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Dave Green
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Nathan Ward
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Simon Lyall