Isn't this a lesson that says not to rely on the goodwill of a monopoly provider, but to do something yourself instead? -- Juha :: -----Original Message----- :: From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz :: [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Te Aroha :: Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 21:34 :: To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz :: Subject: Re: www.jetstream.co.nz branding Xtra after Telecom :: Web Site Change :: :: :: Thats a mighty fine point you have their Craig. If this list :: needs any form :: of endorsement you defintely got mine. :: :: Neutral is always good, and unfair when the "Leading" in :: "Leading ISP" has :: very little to do with service (when thats what the "S" in :: "ISP" stands :: for). :: :: And I cant find Maxnet anywhere on that List of Available ISP's??? :: :: :: :: Te Aroha :: Maxnet Support Team :: Customer Services Supervisor :: support(a)maxnet.co.nz :: Ph: 0508 MAXNET :: Ph: (09) 300-7555 Tech Support :: Ph: (09) 300-7222 Office :: :: ----- Original Message ----- :: From: "Craig Whitmore" :: To: ; :: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:18 PM :: Subject: www.jetstream.co.nz branding Xtra after Telecom Web :: Site Change :: :: :: > Hi everyone... :: > :: > I've noticed after Telecom have revamped their new web :: site they are now :: > pushing alot for Xtra on the Jetstream Web Site :: > (http://www.jetstream.co.nz). Before the change.. it used :: to be "ISP :: > Neutral", but now.. its Xtra, Xtra, Xtra :-( :: > :: > I don't know what other people (ISP's including) think.. :: but I think it :: > should be back to how it was, not pushing any particular ISP, but :: > explaining the service and then giving a list of ISP's to go to get :: > Jetstream from. :: > :: > The First sentence "Get fast Internet access with :: JetStream. Join Xtra - :: > New Zealand's leading Internet Service Provider." makes it :: look like :: > Xtra is the only ISP who can offer the service. :: > then "Get online with Xtra"... etc etc :: > :: > Even the links to order it.. make it look like Xtra only :: as it asks if :: > you want as part of SkyFi as you can only get SkyFi by :: using Xtra as :: > your ISP :: > :: > I talk for myself with these comments, not anyone I work with/for :: > :: > Thanks :: > Craig Whitmore :: > http://www.nzdsl.co.nz :: > New Zealand DSL Information :: > --------- :: > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to :: majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz :: > where the body of your message reads: :: > unsubscribe nznog :: > :: :: --------- :: To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz :: where the body of your message reads: :: unsubscribe nznog :: :: --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Sahil Gupta wrote:

I acually couldn't find the place where it states which ISP's offer ADSL. It is still there http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,2502,100621-200559,00.html

I found it following a link from this page: http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,2502,200338-200555,00.html Well thanks to Craig for pointing it out. It doesn't surprise me. I am sure resellers loved filling in forms after we were told they "forgot to move the online order form pages" in the redesign etc Lin ps I think we should take this off nznog to nznet

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Craig Whitmore wrote:

...

Hi everyone...

I've noticed after Telecom have revamped their new web site they are now pushing alot for Xtra on the Jetstream Web Site (http://www.jetstream.co.nz). Before the change.. it used to be "ISP Neutral", but now.. its Xtra, Xtra, Xtra :-(

I don't know what other people (ISP's including) think.. but I think it should be back to how it was, not pushing any particular ISP, but explaining the service and then giving a list of ISP's to go to get Jetstream from.

The First sentence "Get fast Internet access with JetStream. Join Xtra - New Zealand's leading Internet Service Provider." makes it look like Xtra is the only ISP who can offer the service. then "Get online with Xtra"... etc etc

Even the links to order it.. make it look like Xtra only as it asks if you want as part of SkyFi as you can only get SkyFi by using Xtra as your ISP

I talk for myself with these comments, not anyone I work with/for

Thanks Craig Whitmore http://www.nzdsl.co.nz New Zealand DSL Information

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