We looked briefly at one of the free Vodafone services like this. There was a rate limit of something like 10 messages per day (don't recall exact number), and then the excess get dropped. In our case we went for Vodafone's commercial service to make sure we got all our monitoring TXT's. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Collinson [mailto:scollinson(a)quicksilver.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:01 a.m. To: Dan Clark Cc: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway A friend of mine at Vodafone tells me it costs 20c per message received. However, it is not a promoted service and may be discontinued at any time. Dan Clark wrote:

I have investigated options in the past with these types of service, you may need to check that your not getting charged per message received, as this is now possible with the opt-in type of service. Well worth trying though no doubt.

Dan

On 4/17/07, *Clark Mills* mailto:c.mills(a)auckland.ac.nz> wrote:

Hi all.

I read this on one of our internal mailing lists, thought it might be of interest / use. We use something like this for server monitoring but it's not so good if your email server / network is down, aside from the potential lagginess [SP?] that sometimes occurs with the SMS service.

Still, it may have some value to you.

Of course if any information below is wrong, please let me know.

Cheers... Clark

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If you are on Vodafone, you can 'register' you phone by texting the letter R to the number 901. You should then get back a 'you are registered etc' welcome message.

Once your phone is registered anyone/thing can send you a txt by using an email address such as:

6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz mailto:6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz

Where your mobile number is presumed to be 021-123456.

As far as I know, there is no charge for this service.

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A serial dialup modem and a Pager from Telecom. AJ -----Original Message----- From: Jasper Bryant-Greene [mailto:j(a)digiweb.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:19 a.m. To: Philip D'Ath Cc: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway On this - we have found SMS to be a bit unreliable lately, with messages being delivered hours late or not at all. I am aware that SMS does not provide "guaranteed delivery" - what methods are others on this list using to send alerts reliably? Cheers Jasper On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 11:10 +1200, Philip D'Ath wrote:

We looked briefly at one of the free Vodafone services like this. There was a rate limit of something like 10 messages per day (don't recall exact number), and then the excess get dropped. In our case we went for Vodafone's commercial service to make sure we got all our monitoring TXT's.

-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Collinson [mailto:scollinson(a)quicksilver.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:01 a.m. To: Dan Clark Cc: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway

A friend of mine at Vodafone tells me it costs 20c per message received. However, it is not a promoted service and may be discontinued

at any time.

Dan Clark wrote:

...

I have investigated options in the past with these types of service,

...

you may need to check that your not getting charged per message received, as this is now possible with the opt-in type of service. Well worth trying though no doubt.

Dan

On 4/17/07, *Clark Mills* mailto:c.mills(a)auckland.ac.nz> wrote:

Hi all.

I read this on one of our internal mailing lists, thought it might be of interest / use. We use something like this for server monitoring but it's not so good if your email server / network is down, aside from the potential lagginess [SP?] that sometimes occurs with the SMS service.

Still, it may have some value to you.

Of course if any information below is wrong, please let me know.

Cheers... Clark

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If you are on Vodafone, you can 'register' you phone by texting the letter R to the number 901. You should then get back a 'you are registered etc' welcome message.

Once your phone is registered anyone/thing can send you a txt by using an email address such as:

6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz mailto:6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz

Where your mobile number is presumed to be 021-123456.

As far as I know, there is no charge for this service.

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We actually use a Nokia cellphone and a data cable. I'm not aware of a method which guarantees delivery. We are in the CBD and I note sometimes when all those nightclubbers are frantically messaging each other messages occasionally don't make it to the recipient. Best solution to my mind is just to send a message periodically until a reply is sent to the system to dismiss the notification. Cheers, Erin Salmon Managing Director Unleash Technology Solutions Phone: +64 3 365 1273 Mobile: +64 275 877 913 -----Original Message----- From: Jasper Bryant-Greene [mailto:j(a)digiweb.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:19 a.m. To: Philip D'Ath Cc: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway On this - we have found SMS to be a bit unreliable lately, with messages being delivered hours late or not at all. I am aware that SMS does not provide "guaranteed delivery" - what methods are others on this list using to send alerts reliably? Cheers Jasper On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 11:10 +1200, Philip D'Ath wrote:

We looked briefly at one of the free Vodafone services like this. There was a rate limit of something like 10 messages per day (don't recall exact number), and then the excess get dropped. In our case we went for Vodafone's commercial service to make sure we got all our monitoring TXT's.

-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Collinson [mailto:scollinson(a)quicksilver.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:01 a.m. To: Dan Clark Cc: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway

A friend of mine at Vodafone tells me it costs 20c per message received. However, it is not a promoted service and may be discontinued

at any time.

Dan Clark wrote:

...

I have investigated options in the past with these types of service, you may need to check that your not getting charged per message received, as this is now possible with the opt-in type of service. Well worth trying though no doubt.

Dan

On 4/17/07, *Clark Mills* mailto:c.mills(a)auckland.ac.nz> wrote:

Hi all.

I read this on one of our internal mailing lists, thought it might be of interest / use. We use something like this for server monitoring but it's not so good if your email server / network is down, aside from the potential lagginess [SP?] that sometimes occurs with the SMS service.

Still, it may have some value to you.

Of course if any information below is wrong, please let me know.

Cheers... Clark

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If you are on Vodafone, you can 'register' you phone by texting the letter R to the number 901. You should then get back a 'you are registered etc' welcome message.

Once your phone is registered anyone/thing can send you a txt by using an email address such as:

6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz mailto:6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz

Where your mobile number is presumed to be 021-123456.

As far as I know, there is no charge for this service.

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Indeed. Even if your uplinks are down, you can still receive notifications, and in fact send commands back to the network via SMS, such as to reboot a server. It's not unheard of for SMS gateways (or any other network) to be unreachable for one reason or another occasionally. Cheers, Erin Salmon Managing Director Unleash Technology Solutions Phone: +64 3 365 1273 Mobile: +64 275 877 913 -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Johnson [mailto:aj(a)sneep.net] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:30 a.m. To: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway Erin Salmon - Unleash wrote:

We actually use a Nokia cellphone and a data cable. I'm not aware of a method which guarantees delivery. We are in the CBD and I note sometimes when all those nightclubbers are frantically messaging each other messages occasionally don't make it to the recipient. Best solution to my mind is just to send a message periodically until a reply is sent to the system to dismiss the notification.

That is a reasonably practical solution. It has the nice side effect of ensuring that even if the message does get delivered, whoever is on call isn't ignoring it. I looked at this a while ago, and used an external mail-to-SMS provider (Bulletin Wireless) which worked fine. Obviously having an out-of-band path to them is also handy. As someone else mentioned, Telecom's analog paging service is also reliable and easy to automate. Pagers tend to work when out of cell coverage or in deep dark basements. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.0/763 - Release Date: 16/04/2007 5:53 p.m. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.0/763 - Release Date: 16/04/2007 5:53 p.m.

We have a linux box with smstools on it and a wavecom SMS modem plugged into it. We send emails to the box in the format 0215551234(a)boxname.netspace.net.nz and the subject gets sent as a txt to the number. Was as easy as anything linux to set up, so not hard but some clue required. We initially did this so we could get alerts when our external connectivity went down, but now use it for general service monitoring and some (non-critical) authentication services as well. Still relies on the txt message getting sent by Vodafone though, and as there's no ACK on a txt it's not guaranteed, but has been fairly reliable over the years. The SMS modems seem to die after 3 years, but apart from that it's been great :^) If anyone is using anything more reliable I would be very interested to hear about it too. Cheers, Gerard On 17/04/2007 11:18 a.m., Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:

On this - we have found SMS to be a bit unreliable lately, with messages being delivered hours late or not at all. I am aware that SMS does not provide "guaranteed delivery" - what methods are others on this list using to send alerts reliably?

Cheers Jasper

On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 11:10 +1200, Philip D'Ath wrote:

...

We looked briefly at one of the free Vodafone services like this. There was a rate limit of something like 10 messages per day (don't recall exact number), and then the excess get dropped. In our case we went for Vodafone's commercial service to make sure we got all our monitoring TXT's.

-----Original Message----- From: Samuel Collinson [mailto:scollinson(a)quicksilver.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:01 a.m. To: Dan Clark Cc: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway

A friend of mine at Vodafone tells me it costs 20c per message received. However, it is not a promoted service and may be discontinued

at any time.

Dan Clark wrote:

...

I have investigated options in the past with these types of service, you may need to check that your not getting charged per message received, as this is now possible with the opt-in type of service. Well worth trying though no doubt.

Dan

On 4/17/07, *Clark Mills* mailto:c.mills(a)auckland.ac.nz> wrote:

Hi all.

I read this on one of our internal mailing lists, thought it might be of interest / use. We use something like this for server monitoring but it's not so good if your email server / network is down, aside from the potential lagginess [SP?] that sometimes occurs with the SMS service.

Still, it may have some value to you.

Of course if any information below is wrong, please let me know.

Cheers... Clark

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[forwarded & edited]

If you are on Vodafone, you can 'register' you phone by texting the letter R to the number 901. You should then get back a 'you are registered etc' welcome message.

Once your phone is registered anyone/thing can send you a txt by using an email address such as:

6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz mailto:6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz

Where your mobile number is presumed to be 021-123456.

As far as I know, there is no charge for this service.

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A few years ago I spoke to someone deep within Vodafone, and I asked if they were planning on adding "return receipts" or a delivery acknowledgment feature, that Telecom seems to provide, and they quoted that all encompassing "Privacy Act" as the reason they did not want to provide that / turn it on. They provided the most ridiculous scenario of someone asking someone to marry them, and they never getting the text message or something.. Anyway, if someone can tell me otherwise, as far as I know, Vodafone don't provide return receipts / delivery acknowledgments. They also don't provide Time Sync, as the CDMA network seems to provide, but that's another issue. On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 12:57 +1200, Mark Derricutt wrote:

For most 'alerts' or notifications the lack of a response may acceptable, and most of the email2sms solutions don't provide receipts, thou using a modem directly you should be able to configure it to request receipts - although that in may only be a receipt that the message was received by the carrier, and not the handset. Some of the receipts we see when sending via SMPP or Telecoms new UAS service (SMPP replacement) are 'number unreachable' (bad number, or blocked off-net number), 'not received' (handset was off for too long so message expired), 'received', 'no funds' (for prepay) amongst others.

On 4/17/07, Gerard Creamer wrote: Still relies on the txt message getting sent by Vodafone though, and as there's no ACK on a txt it's not guaranteed, but has been fairly reliable over the years. The SMS modems seem to die after 3 years, but apart from that it's been great :^)

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On 4/17/07, Juha Saarinen wrote:

Chris Hodgetts wrote:

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Anyway, if someone can tell me otherwise, as far as I know, Vodafone don't provide return receipts / delivery acknowledgments.

Vodafone turned on this feature recently. Seems to work too.

Yep, they seem to have added this couple of weeks ago. First it worked only with other VF numbers but now it seems to be working everywhere (I'm regularly sending SMS messages to overseas (Europe) numbers and I get delivery receipts almost immediately). Too bad only that it took them years to add this ... Bojan

Doesn't appear to work with 029 (Telstra who colo on Vodafone's GSM network) Dan On 4/17/07, Clark Mills wrote:

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If you are on Vodafone, you can 'register' you phone by texting the letter R to the number 901. You should then get back a 'you are registered etc' welcome message.

BTW:

You can 'unregister' by TXTing the letter U to 901 also.

Cheers... Clark

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