Hi Guys, Can someone tell me how many participants are connected to APE ? Thanks, -- James
There's a list which could easily be counted with grep and wc: http://ape.nzix.net/peers.html Perhaps Citylink might consider adding a count to that page? Of course, that's only people peering publicly, others could be doing private peering over the APE without appearing there. -jasper On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 16:34 +1000, James Spenceley wrote:
Hi Guys,
Can someone tell me how many participants are connected to APE ?
Thanks,
-- James
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Short answer: 61. -Michael On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:39 +1200, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
There's a list which could easily be counted with grep and wc:
http://ape.nzix.net/peers.html
Perhaps Citylink might consider adding a count to that page?
Of course, that's only people peering publicly, others could be doing private peering over the APE without appearing there.
-jasper
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 16:34 +1000, James Spenceley wrote:
Hi Guys,
Can someone tell me how many participants are connected to APE ?
Thanks,
-- James
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On 16/09/2008, at 4:39 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
There's a list which could easily be counted with grep and wc:
I counted (albeit with eyes and brain) and it worked out ~60, which seemed lower than I'd heard mentioned, so you may well be right on the private peering.
-jasper
-- James
On 16/09/2008, at 6:48 PM, James Spenceley wrote:
On 16/09/2008, at 4:39 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
There's a list which could easily be counted with grep and wc:
I counted (albeit with eyes and brain) and it worked out ~60, which seemed lower than I'd heard mentioned, so you may well be right on the private peering.
Hi James, Check out http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi I don't think many people do exclusively private peering across APE. Pretty much everyone who connects there peers with the route servers. Any private peering is generally an optimisation (remove an AS from paths) or to get some flavour of transit. I'm certainly not aware of anyone other than TelstraClear/Telecom that would be likely to connect but not peer with the RSes. Note that i'm not saying that they do connect - I'm saying that I'm not aware of anyone else who has a private-peering-only policy. -- Nathan Ward
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 19:00 +1200, Nathan Ward wrote:
On 16/09/2008, at 6:48 PM, James Spenceley wrote:
On 16/09/2008, at 4:39 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
There's a list which could easily be counted with grep and wc:
I counted (albeit with eyes and brain) and it worked out ~60, which seemed lower than I'd heard mentioned, so you may well be right on the private peering.
I don't think many people do exclusively private peering across APE. Pretty much everyone who connects there peers with the route servers. Any private peering is generally an optimisation (remove an AS from paths) or to get some flavour of transit.
I'm certainly not aware of anyone other than TelstraClear/Telecom that would be likely to connect but not peer with the RSes. Note that i'm not saying that they do connect - I'm saying that I'm not aware of anyone else who has a private-peering-only policy.
Of course, number of /32 equivalents announced on the APE is probably a more useful metric than just "number of participants". Then again, I don't know what you want the data for, so maybe not. -jasper
On 16/09/2008, at 4:30 PM, Nathan Ward wrote:
I'm certainly not aware of anyone other than TelstraClear/Telecom that would be likely to connect but not peer with the RSes. Note that i'm not saying that they do connect - I'm saying that I'm not aware of anyone else who has a private-peering-only policy.
I can't ping these because I'm not connected to APE but I _do_ love IXes who keep reverse mappings upto date: 24.154.203.192.in-addr.arpa. 2D IN PTR telecom.ape.net.nz. 32.154.203.192.in-addr.arpa. 2D IN PTR telstraclear1.ape.net.nz. 33.154.203.192.in-addr.arpa. 2D IN PTR telstraclear2.ape.net.nz. I've found comparing reverse mappings to ASes known in route servers a useful way of doing discovery at many IXes. That, however, doesn't mean you can find someone who'll talk peering with you in a meaningful sense. MMC -- Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks
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