This issue is of fundamental interest to anyone concerned with the commercial integrity and long term stability of the Internet in New Zealand. Therefore it a matter of concern to me in the policy capacity recognised in the sig below. Wearing a different hat, my association with ISOCNZ, there is a need for someone *representative of the Internet community as a whole* to take on responsibility for ensuring that the Internet is a stable and reliable platform for e commerce. Although ISOCNZ is not there yet, it does have that potential (see for example, David Farrar's vision statement http://www.dpf.ac.nz/isocnz/vision.htm; which I by and large support) Ideologically and practically, there is strong disinterest on the part of the Government to regulate any matter relating to the Internet. But I have been lead to believe that the IP address structure is of sufficient concern that, if there was any suggestion that the NZgate 'share' of the IP address space was at risk of monopoly 'capture' by any group which was not representative of the interests of the Internet users as a whole, the Government might take another look. I will be developing some of this at the Face to Face meeting on 20 November. So my comment on the question raised by Joe's most recent post, reproduced in full below is: who else, other than ISOCNZ? And if this is not 'value add' what would be of greater importance? This is also not a loaded question. :) Of course, we are looking at an operational issue. Although, in fact, we are looking at policy underlying an operational issue; that is governance, actually. Frank March Specialist Advisor IT Policy Group, Ministry of Commerce, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Telephone: +64 4 474 2908; Fax: +64 4 473 7010

-----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [SMTP:jabley(a)clear.co.nz] Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 12:32 PM To: 2Day Chief Enthusiast; Donald Neal; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: NZGate Addressing Within New Zealand

On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 12:01:17PM +1300, 2Day Chief Enthusiast wrote:

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This list is an excellent idea. Top marks to the folk who kicked it off

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Three weeks ago Joe Abley suggested to this list an approach to the elimination of addresses issued in small units by NZGate. His proposal is still available at http://www.patho.gen.nz/~jabley/nznumber.txt .

Are list participants aware ISOCNZ is planning a forum discussion on this topic in Wellington on Nov 20 prior to their AGM?

Sounds like an opportunity for industry players to get together and share views.

Although there are commercial issues surrounding the use of NZGATE numbers in networks today, the underlying motive for reform is the health of the network - specifically, the advertisement of long-prefix routes. This aspect is clearly an operational issue, rather than one of governance -- and has its roots in _global_ operational policy, rather than that of just NZ.

As someone who is almost certainly more familiar with ISOCNZ than I am, what are your views? How do you see ISOCNZ participating or adding value to this issue?

This isn't a loaded question :) I'm just interested.

Joe

-- Joe Abley Tel +64 9 912-4065, Fax +64 9 912-5008 Network Architect, CLEAR Net http://www.clear.net.nz/

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