Looks like the herald is breaking all the interesting stories lately: http://tinyurl.com/82j8 I can understand Callplus having problems since they have been struggling with inexperienced staff for a few months (although 6 months is before the most recent resignations) but I'm not sure how the Jetstream/Jetstart thing would have worked. I've yet to see Telecom lose money when people get Jetstream relms confused. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz Ihug Ltd, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz
Gave me a good giggle for the start of my day , Thanks Simon , Im also curious how the jetstream issue worked. I cant see how telecom could ever loose money from Jetstream :) , Does anyone know how this worked ? Best Regards Matthew G Brown Chief Executive B & R Holdings LIMITED Information Technology Holdings Company http://www.brh.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lyall [mailto:simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:35 AM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc. Looks like the herald is breaking all the interesting stories lately: http://tinyurl.com/82j8 I can understand Callplus having problems since they have been struggling with inexperienced staff for a few months (although 6 months is before the most recent resignations) but I'm not sure how the Jetstream/Jetstart thing would have worked. I've yet to see Telecom lose money when people get Jetstream relms confused. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz Ihug Ltd, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
Simon Lyall
Looks like the herald is breaking all the interesting stories lately:
I can understand Callplus having problems since they have been struggling with inexperienced staff for a few months (although 6 months is before the most recent resignations) but I'm not sure how the Jetstream/Jetstart thing would have worked. I've yet to see Telecom lose money when people get Jetstream relms confused.
So is Callplus/Attica IP space somewhat blacklisted now? Surely they'd have had complaints about the open proxy? -- Juha
yea, you can imagine how many spammers would have found that proxy, and used
it.. surely someone at attica/callplus got notification that it was open..
Spammers find open proxy's in a matter of hours these days.. perhaps staff
recieved the notifications, but didnt give a dam?
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From: "Juha Saarinen"
Simon Lyall
wrote: Looks like the herald is breaking all the interesting stories lately:
I can understand Callplus having problems since they have been struggling with inexperienced staff for a few months (although 6 months is before the most recent resignations) but I'm not sure how the Jetstream/Jetstart thing would have worked. I've yet to see Telecom lose money when people get Jetstream relms confused.
So is Callplus/Attica IP space somewhat blacklisted now?
Surely they'd have had complaints about the open proxy?
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Craig Spiers
Spammers find open proxy's in a matter of hours these days.. perhaps staff recieved the notifications, but didnt give a dam?
Dunno. It seems most admins are aware of email relaying, but not open proxies still. Last year, a spammer carpet-bombed IDG accounts through an open proxy in Australia, and I had tough time convincing the people responsible that their machine was open to abuse, because they clung onto the idea that their "email server didn't allow relaying"... That proxy stayed open for almost three months, IIRC. -- Juha
yea, you can imagine how many spammers would have found that proxy, and used it.. surely someone at attica/callplus got notification that it was open..
Not while I was there. I've been gone three-and-a-half months now, so it's quite possible they got told since then.
Spammers find open proxy's in a matter of hours these days.. perhaps staff recieved the notifications, but didnt give a dam?
Or they weren't able to figure out what the warning meant and ignored it? An open proxy would definitely have been brought to my attention as all security issues came across my desk, and I never saw any such notification. Not to mention that someone would've bitched if we'd been blacklisted and while that did happen it was by a couple of companies as a serious over-reaction to dodgy activity by customers. -- Matthew Poole Auckland, NZ http://www.p00le.net "Three pills a day keeps the voices at bay" Matthew Poole
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:22:58AM +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote:
Simon Lyall
wrote: Looks like the herald is breaking all the interesting stories lately:
I can understand Callplus having problems since they have been struggling with inexperienced staff for a few months (although 6 months is before the most recent resignations) but I'm not sure how the Jetstream/Jetstart thing would have worked. I've yet to see Telecom lose money when people get Jetstream relms confused.
So is Callplus/Attica IP space somewhat blacklisted now?
Surely they'd have had complaints about the open proxy?
Hello. It may have been an open web proxy only, not capable of abusing SMTP or IRC. Regards, RH.
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Craig Spiers
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Matthew G Brown
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Matthew Poole
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Richard Haakma
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Simon Lyall