Hi I still see CallPlus announcing at least some of their routes to AKL-IX. I believe Vocus are announcing them just because Vocus are an upstream of CallPlus. You can see this on ISPMap - http://ispmap.co.nz/work/topmap-16-Sep-2014.html or use the real time map at http://ispmap.co.nz/ . Potentially CallPlus's Vocus pipe is saturated currently. A similar situation to this was discussed in December last year in a thread subjected "AKL-IX and domestic vs. international" Also, there are ways downstreams of Vocus can help with this available at http://tools.vocus.com.au/additionals/communities2.0.html (assuming the APE community also includes AKL-IX). I still see the route you mention advertised from CallPlus over our BiLat with them but not from the AKL-IX route servers. Cheers Dave On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Liam Farr wrote:

Hey,

Anyone else seeing this, routes to CallPlus are being advertised to AKL-IX by Vocus rather than by CallPlus direct.

As an example this is breaking 'www.stuff.co.nz' for me.

The path by Vocus seems really 'fucked' (like its aggressively shaped down to nothing) so HTTP takes forever to load.

Liams-MacBook-Pro:~ liamfarr$ traceroute www.stuff.co.nz

...

traceroute: Warning: www.stuff.co.nz has multiple addresses; using 119.224.143.41 traceroute to a1784.g.akamai.net (119.224.143.41), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 192.168.6.1 (192.168.6.1) 0.710 ms 0.394 ms 0.332 ms 2 unallocated.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.2) 0.427 ms 0.434 ms 0.397 ms 3 vl0901.core2.qs220.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.141) 0.585 ms 0.651 ms 0.586 ms 4 vl0233.edge1.qs220.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.38) 0.645 ms 0.672 ms 0.613 ms 5 43.243.21.6 (43.243.21.6) 1.580 ms 1.459 ms 1.529 ms 6 ten-0-1-0-2.cor01.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (114.31.202.122) 2.139 ms 2.088 ms 2.294 ms 7 bundle-10.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (114.31.202.101) 2.560 ms 2.764 ms 2.314 ms 8 as4610.cust.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (175.45.102.66) 24.271 ms 24.166 ms 24.251 ms 9 pts-n.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.net (101.98.5.20) 2.297 ms 2.175 ms 2.254 ms 10 p1.akamai.callplus.net.nz (119.224.143.1) 1.488 ms 1.633 ms 2.441 ms 11 p41.akamai.callplus.net.nz (119.224.143.41) 1.624 ms 2.116 ms 2.334 ms

liam(a)QS220-EDGE1:~$ show ip bgp 119.224.143.41

...

BGP routing table entry for 119.224.142.0/23 Paths: (4 available, best #3, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Advertised to non peer-group peers: 103.247.154.37 103.247.154.42 103.247.154.186 192.203.154.150 2403:4d00:fff:ffff:ffff:ffff:20:2 45177 4610 9790 103.247.152.241 from 103.247.152.241 (14.1.32.4) Origin IGP, localpref 50, valid, external Community: 55785:502 Extended Community: RT:45177:1117 Last update: Thu Jul 9 06:37:46 2015 45177 4610 9790 103.247.152.213 from 103.247.152.213 (14.1.32.4) Origin IGP, localpref 50, valid, external Community: 55785:502 Extended Community: RT:45177:1117 Last update: Thu Jul 9 06:34:55 2015

* 4826 4610 9790 43.243.21.6 from 43.243.21.1 (43.243.21.1) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 55785:202 Last update: Wed Jun 24 04:15:20 2015* 23655 9560 9790 111.69.34.225 from 111.69.34.225 (43.225.200.2) Origin IGP, localpref 90, valid, external Community: 55785:302 Last update: Sat Mar 28 03:36:00 2015

As CallPlus peer on AKL-IX I would have expected to see them advertising their own routes, rather than just advertising these to Vocus who are then 'breaking them'. Perhaps someone from CallPlus could fix their advertisements, and someone from Vocus could either fix their 'bottleneck' or stop advertising the routes.

-- Kind Regards

Liam Farr

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Hi Liam The best point of contact for AS9790 is listed on the PeeringDB. (noc(a)callplus.co.nzmailto:noc(a)callplus.co.nz) https://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=3798 Hope that helps. From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Liam Farr Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2015 2:37 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] CallPlus Routes / Akamai Coming via Vocus / AKL-IX?? Hey, Anyone else seeing this, routes to CallPlus are being advertised to AKL-IX by Vocus rather than by CallPlus direct. As an example this is breaking 'www.stuff.co.nzhttp://www.stuff.co.nz' for me. The path by Vocus seems really 'fucked' (like its aggressively shaped down to nothing) so HTTP takes forever to load. Liams-MacBook-Pro:~ liamfarr$ traceroute www.stuff.co.nzhttp://www.stuff.co.nz traceroute: Warning: www.stuff.co.nzhttp://www.stuff.co.nz has multiple addresses; using 119.224.143.41 traceroute to a1784.g.akamai.nethttp://a1784.g.akamai.net (119.224.143.41), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 192.168.6.1 (192.168.6.1) 0.710 ms 0.394 ms 0.332 ms 2 unallocated.maxumdata.nethttp://unallocated.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.2) 0.427 ms 0.434 ms 0.397 ms 3 vl0901.core2.qs220.maxumdata.nethttp://vl0901.core2.qs220.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.141) 0.585 ms 0.651 ms 0.586 ms 4 vl0233.edge1.qs220.maxumdata.nethttp://vl0233.edge1.qs220.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.38) 0.645 ms 0.672 ms 0.613 ms 5 43.243.21.6 (43.243.21.6) 1.580 ms 1.459 ms 1.529 ms 6 ten-0-1-0-2.cor01.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nzhttp://ten-0-1-0-2.cor01.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (114.31.202.122) 2.139 ms 2.088 ms 2.294 ms 7 bundle-10.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nzhttp://bundle-10.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (114.31.202.101) 2.560 ms 2.764 ms 2.314 ms 8 as4610.cust.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nzhttp://as4610.cust.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (175.45.102.66) 24.271 ms 24.166 ms 24.251 ms 9 pts-n.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.nethttp://pts-n.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.net (101.98.5.20) 2.297 ms 2.175 ms 2.254 ms 10 p1.akamai.callplus.net.nzhttp://p1.akamai.callplus.net.nz (119.224.143.1) 1.488 ms 1.633 ms 2.441 ms 11 p41.akamai.callplus.net.nzhttp://p41.akamai.callplus.net.nz (119.224.143.41) 1.624 ms 2.116 ms 2.334 ms liam(a)QS220-EDGE1:~$ show ip bgp 119.224.143.41 BGP routing table entry for 119.224.142.0/23http://119.224.142.0/23 Paths: (4 available, best #3, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Advertised to non peer-group peers: 103.247.154.37 103.247.154.42 103.247.154.186 192.203.154.150 2403:4d00:fff:ffff:ffff:ffff:20:2 45177 4610 9790 103.247.152.241 from 103.247.152.241 (14.1.32.4) Origin IGP, localpref 50, valid, external Community: 55785:502 Extended Community: RT:45177:1117 Last update: Thu Jul 9 06:37:46 2015 45177 4610 9790 103.247.152.213 from 103.247.152.213 (14.1.32.4) Origin IGP, localpref 50, valid, external Community: 55785:502 Extended Community: RT:45177:1117 Last update: Thu Jul 9 06:34:55 2015 4826 4610 9790 43.243.21.6 from 43.243.21.1 (43.243.21.1) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 55785:202 Last update: Wed Jun 24 04:15:20 2015 23655 9560 9790 111.69.34.225 from 111.69.34.225 (43.225.200.2) Origin IGP, localpref 90, valid, external Community: 55785:302 Last update: Sat Mar 28 03:36:00 2015 As CallPlus peer on AKL-IX I would have expected to see them advertising their own routes, rather than just advertising these to Vocus who are then 'breaking them'. Perhaps someone from CallPlus could fix their advertisements, and someone from Vocus could either fix their 'bottleneck' or stop advertising the routes. -- Kind Regards Liam Farr Maxum Data +64-9-950-5302 [cid:imagef5d6ed.PNG(a)0cf08f52.46b68c5d] Simon Allard // Senior Network Architect D: 09 550 2790 M: 020 100 0790 F: www.callplus.co.nzhttp://www.callplus.co.nz | www.slingshot.co.nzhttp://www.slingshot.co.nz | www.flip.co.nzhttp://www.flip.co.nz | www.orcon.net.nzhttp://www.orcon.net.nz This message and any attachments contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately via email and then destroy this message and any attachments.