FW:Electricity Reforms Act and Diesel Generators
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A little article in IDG about this little thread: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/DF26DD5EC552714CCC2572370015BF36 "The name Kordia comes from the Latin accordia meaning harmony" -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
-----Original Message----- From: Simon Lyall > Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2006 5:37 p.m. To: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] FW:Electricity Reforms Act and Diesel Generators
A little article in IDG about this little thread:
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/DF26DD5EC552714CCC257 2370015BF36
In which may be read "However, NZNOG policy is not to act as a censor and remove messages, and they are still there, available to anyone with a web browser and internet connection." The practise of not altering the list archive on request has nothing at all to do with views on censorship. After all, the archive contains material already distributed. It has to do with who's responsible for the content of the archive. If someone edited the archive, that person would be responsible for what they chose to leave. - Donald Neal This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.
This situation has highlighted something that it would seem people have forgotten . This list is a large number of years on from the time when it consisted of a few techos who met over (a/some/s**t_loads_of - delete which does not apply) beer at a conference. The membership list has grown now to include more than a few 'interested parties' and even journalists. While this is a great way to let the wider NZ Internet community gain an appreciation of what goes on in the engine room. It's not the place at all to be discussing ANYTHING which you wouldn't scream from the rooftops. Why do you think I've hardly posted for the last three years while I worked for a telco. This is a VERY public forum. It might be be better to think of posting here like taking out an advert in the Dom, rather than asking a quiet question over curry on a thurs night. =) At least TNC had NDA understandings =) At the very least it's going to be archived forever, at the very worst It's going to make headlines. Dean (Waves to the journos) Pemberton. Donald Neal wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Simon Lyall > Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2006 5:37 p.m. To: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] FW:Electricity Reforms Act and Diesel Generators
A little article in IDG about this little thread:
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/DF26DD5EC552714CCC257 2370015BF36
In which may be read
"However, NZNOG policy is not to act as a censor and remove messages, and they are still there, available to anyone with a web browser and internet connection."
The practise of not altering the list archive on request has nothing at all to do with views on censorship. After all, the archive contains material already distributed. It has to do with who's responsible for the content of the archive. If someone edited the archive, that person would be responsible for what they chose to leave.
- Donald Neal
This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.
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On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:47 +1300, Dean Pemberton wrote:
The membership list has grown now to include more than a few 'interested parties' and even journalists.
Out of interest, could the list_admins let us know what the current subscriber count on the list is? cheers jamie
I bet there is a high lurker to participant ratio... Mike (lurking in Seattle, WA, USA at the moment) On Dec 2, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Jamie Baddeley wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:47 +1300, Dean Pemberton wrote:
The membership list has grown now to include more than a few 'interested parties' and even journalists.
Out of interest, could the list_admins let us know what the current subscriber count on the list is?
cheers
jamie
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Probably so, though this thread artificially skews the results. -Adam // Lurking from outside of New York /// if my .02c is at all welcomed, kudos to the nznog archive maintainers for not removing messages, it was sad when nanog did //// even sadder, most of the conversation devolved the fact that the merit maintainer had sent HTML mail, virtually no substantive discussion on what had actually occurred was conducted :/ On Dec 3, 2006, at 3:01 AM, Mike wrote:
I bet there is a high lurker to participant ratio...
Mike (lurking in Seattle, WA, USA at the moment)
On Dec 2, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Jamie Baddeley wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:47 +1300, Dean Pemberton wrote:
The membership list has grown now to include more than a few 'interested parties' and even journalists.
Out of interest, could the list_admins let us know what the current subscriber count on the list is?
cheers
jamie
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Jamie Baddeley wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:47 +1300, Dean Pemberton wrote:
The membership list has grown now to include more than a few 'interested parties' and even journalists.
Out of interest, could the list_admins let us know what the current subscriber count on the list is?
The monthly post gives the rough number of subscribers. There are usually a couple of changes per day. Right this very minute it is 922. IMHO: There is probably no sort of email list you can create these days to which Techies from large NZ companies will be allowed to post to freely. It is far too easy for emails to be forwarded and competing companies have every incentive to do so. The same goes for IRC. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
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