Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .

Jonas Bergler

1 Sep 2011 1 Sep '11

2:34 p.m.

Here's a link to a torrent a friend sent me. http://www.mediafire.com/?1xww480v8ykxjpv My friend also asked me what the the announce url of my public bittorrent tracker is. Jonas

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From: Craig Whitmore Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:17 -0700 To: Dave Green , "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" < nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .

100+ copyright infringements so far…

IP Addresses from mostly New Zealand IP Addresses and 2 government departments ! . Some overseas addresses and some anonymous proxies registered in the Seychelles

I'll give a full report in a couple of days..

Thanks

From: Dave Green Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:56:45 +1200 To: Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .

As you (and several others) have admitted to breaching the copyright and have also supplied your contact details, efforts to track the actual data path aren't really necessary :)

On 2/09/2011 1:56 p.m., Eslick, Chris wrote:

Viewed from work connection over a proxy that does not log the internal IP. ****

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So will work get the notice?****

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*From:* nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [ mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz ] *On Behalf Of *Craig Whitmore *Sent:* Friday, 2 September 2011 1:43 p.m. *To:* nznog List *Subject:* [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .****

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I have made a file up and I have 100% copyright to it (as I made it). No one has any permission to view/download/copy/reproduce or anything the file except me (and there is only one of me)****

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The file is at http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/copyright.txt . Do NOT download or view it or anything the file. I'm just file sharing the location of it so I don't forget the location but no one else is allowed to see it.****

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Now lets see how many automated systems download the file or humans try and view MY file.****

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Thanks****

Craig****

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Mauricio Freitas

1 Sep 1 Sep

2:49 p.m.

New subject: FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .

Posted on Twitter and had 11 views on the short URL for the first five seconds… Cheers Mauricio Freitas www.geekzone.co.nzhttp://www.geekzone.co.nz www.geekzone.co.nz/freitasmhttp://www.geekzone.co.nz/freitasm www.twitter.com/freitasmhttp://www.twitter.com/freitasm From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jonas Bergler Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:34 p.m. To: Craig Whitmore Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Here's a link to a torrent a friend sent me. http://www.mediafire.com/?1xww480v8ykxjpv My friend also asked me what the the announce url of my public bittorrent tracker is. Jonas From: Craig Whitmore mailto:craig(a)voyager.co.nz> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:17 -0700 To: Dave Green mailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz>, "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . 100+ copyright infringements so far… IP Addresses from mostly New Zealand IP Addresses and 2 government departments ! . Some overseas addresses and some anonymous proxies registered in the Seychelles I'll give a full report in a couple of days.. Thanks From: Dave Green mailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:56:45 +1200 To: mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . As you (and several others) have admitted to breaching the copyright and have also supplied your contact details, efforts to track the actual data path aren't really necessary :) On 2/09/2011 1:56 p.m., Eslick, Chris wrote: Viewed from work connection over a proxy that does not log the internal IP. So will work get the notice? From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Craig Whitmore Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 1:43 p.m. To: nznog List Subject: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . I have made a file up and I have 100% copyright to it (as I made it). No one has any permission to view/download/copy/reproduce or anything the file except me (and there is only one of me) The file is at http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/copyright.txt . Do NOT download or view it or anything the file. I'm just file sharing the location of it so I don't forget the location but no one else is allowed to see it. Now lets see how many automated systems download the file or humans try and view MY file. Thanks Craig ________________________________ WARNING: This email and any file transmitted with it are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. You must not copy or deliver it to any other person or use the contents in any unauthorised manner without express permission of the sender. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail, please delete it and notify the sender as soon as possible. All outgoing emails and attached files are virus scanned, but we do not represent that this email and any attached files are free from computer viruses or other defects. Further, we do not accept any liability for any damage caused by this email or attachments. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal ________________________________ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

Regan Murphy

2:52 p.m.

New subject: FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .

Scary, when you think that 5 people could have just clicked on a link with malware on the end of it… Just because it came from ‘freitasm’’s twitter account doesn’t mean it was safe….! From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Mauricio Freitas Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:49 p.m. To: Jonas Bergler; Craig Whitmore Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Posted on Twitter and had 11 views on the short URL for the first five seconds… Cheers Mauricio Freitas www.geekzone.co.nzhttp://www.geekzone.co.nz www.geekzone.co.nz/freitasmhttp://www.geekzone.co.nz/freitasm www.twitter.com/freitasmhttp://www.twitter.com/freitasm From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]mailto:[mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jonas Bergler Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:34 p.m. To: Craig Whitmore Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Here's a link to a torrent a friend sent me. http://www.mediafire.com/?1xww480v8ykxjpv My friend also asked me what the the announce url of my public bittorrent tracker is. Jonas From: Craig Whitmore mailto:craig(a)voyager.co.nz> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:17 -0700 To: Dave Green mailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz>, "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . 100+ copyright infringements so far… IP Addresses from mostly New Zealand IP Addresses and 2 government departments ! . Some overseas addresses and some anonymous proxies registered in the Seychelles I'll give a full report in a couple of days.. Thanks From: Dave Green mailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:56:45 +1200 To: mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . As you (and several others) have admitted to breaching the copyright and have also supplied your contact details, efforts to track the actual data path aren't really necessary :) On 2/09/2011 1:56 p.m., Eslick, Chris wrote: Viewed from work connection over a proxy that does not log the internal IP. So will work get the notice? From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Craig Whitmore Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 1:43 p.m. To: nznog List Subject: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . I have made a file up and I have 100% copyright to it (as I made it). No one has any permission to view/download/copy/reproduce or anything the file except me (and there is only one of me) The file is at http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/copyright.txt . Do NOT download or view it or anything the file. I'm just file sharing the location of it so I don't forget the location but no one else is allowed to see it. Now lets see how many automated systems download the file or humans try and view MY file. Thanks Craig ________________________________ WARNING: This email and any file transmitted with it are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. You must not copy or deliver it to any other person or use the contents in any unauthorised manner without express permission of the sender. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail, please delete it and notify the sender as soon as possible. All outgoing emails and attached files are virus scanned, but we do not represent that this email and any attached files are free from computer viruses or other defects. Further, we do not accept any liability for any damage caused by this email or attachments. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal ________________________________ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

Craig Spiers

2:58 p.m.

New subject: FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .

With the new copyright laws and so on.. How would we get on with a scenario like this – let’s say someone uploads a copyrighted video to youtube, loads of people stream/watch it. The copyright holder lodges a claim with youtube – technically all those who watched it – downloaded it right? Cheers From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Regan Murphy Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:53 p.m. To: Mauricio Freitas; Jonas Bergler; Craig Whitmore Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Scary, when you think that 5 people could have just clicked on a link with malware on the end of it… Just because it came from ‘freitasm’’s twitter account doesn’t mean it was safe….! From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Mauricio Freitas Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:49 p.m. To: Jonas Bergler; Craig Whitmore Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Posted on Twitter and had 11 views on the short URL for the first five seconds… Cheers Mauricio Freitas www.geekzone.co.nz www.geekzone.co.nz/freitasm www.twitter.com/freitasm From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jonas Bergler Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:34 p.m. To: Craig Whitmore Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Here's a link to a torrent a friend sent me. http://www.mediafire.com/?1xww480v8ykxjpv My friend also asked me what the the announce url of my public bittorrent tracker is. Jonas From: Craig Whitmore Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:17 -0700 To: Dave Green , "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . 100+ copyright infringements so far… IP Addresses from mostly New Zealand IP Addresses and 2 government departments ! . Some overseas addresses and some anonymous proxies registered in the Seychelles I'll give a full report in a couple of days.. Thanks From: Dave Green Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:56:45 +1200 To: Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . As you (and several others) have admitted to breaching the copyright and have also supplied your contact details, efforts to track the actual data path aren't really necessary :) On 2/09/2011 1:56 p.m., Eslick, Chris wrote: Viewed from work connection over a proxy that does not log the internal IP. So will work get the notice? From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Craig Whitmore Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 1:43 p.m. To: nznog List Subject: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . I have made a file up and I have 100% copyright to it (as I made it). No one has any permission to view/download/copy/reproduce or anything the file except me (and there is only one of me) The file is at http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/copyright.txt . Do NOT download or view it or anything the file. I'm just file sharing the location of it so I don't forget the location but no one else is allowed to see it. Now lets see how many automated systems download the file or humans try and view MY file. Thanks Craig ________________________________ WARNING: This email and any file transmitted with it are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. You must not copy or deliver it to any other person or use the contents in any unauthorised manner without express permission of the sender. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail, please delete it and notify the sender as soon as possible. All outgoing emails and attached files are virus scanned, but we do not represent that this email and any attached files are free from computer viruses or other defects. Further, we do not accept any liability for any damage caused by this email or attachments. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal ________________________________ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nzhttp://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog Craig Spiers | Network Manager Solarix Networks Limited DDI: +64 9 974 4753 | Mob: +64 21 0220 1766 | Office: +64 9 974 4750 | FAX: +64 9 974 4760 Email: craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nz | Web: www.solarix.net.nz CAUTION: This email is confidential. If it is not intended for you please do not read, distribute or copy it or any attachments. Please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message and any attachments.Any views expressed in this email may be those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Solarix Networks Limited. 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Paul Brislen

3:02 p.m.

New subject: FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ .

Technically yes but MED already realized how difficult it will be to police this kind of thing so it's torrents only for now. Sent from my iPhone On 2/09/2011, at 2:59 PM, "Craig Spiers" mailto:craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nz> wrote: With the new copyright laws and so on.. How would we get on with a scenario like this – let’s say someone uploads a copyrighted video to youtube, loads of people stream/watch it. The copyright holder lodges a claim with youtube – technically all those who watched it – downloaded it right? Cheers Craig Spiers | Network Manager Solarix Networks Limited DDI: +64 9 974 4753 | Mob: +64 21 0220 1766 | Office: +64 9 974 4750 | FAX: +64 9 974 4760 Email: mailto:craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nz craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nzmailto:craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nz mailto:craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nz | Web: http://www.solarix.co.nz www.solarix.co.nzhttp://www.solarix.co.nz CAUTION: This email is confidential. If it is not intended for you please do not read, distribute or copy it or any attachments. Please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message and any attachments.Any views expressed in this email may be those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Solarix Networks Limited. Q Please consider the environment before printing this email! Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules http://www.codetwo.comwww.codetwo.comhttp://www.codetwo.com From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Regan Murphy Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:53 p.m. To: Mauricio Freitas; Jonas Bergler; Craig Whitmore Cc: mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Scary, when you think that 5 people could have just clicked on a link with malware on the end of it… Just because it came from ‘freitasm’’s twitter account doesn’t mean it was safe….! From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Mauricio Freitas Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:49 p.m. To: Jonas Bergler; Craig Whitmore Cc: mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Posted on Twitter and had 11 views on the short URL for the first five seconds… Cheers Mauricio Freitas http://www.geekzone.co.nzwww.geekzone.co.nzhttp://www.geekzone.co.nz http://www.geekzone.co.nz/freitasmwww.geekzone.co.nz/freitasmhttp://www.geekzone.co.nz/freitasm http://www.twitter.com/freitasmwww.twitter.com/freitasmhttp://www.twitter.com/freitasm From: mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]mailto:[mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jonas Bergler Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 2:34 p.m. To: Craig Whitmore Cc: mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . Here's a link to a torrent a friend sent me. http://www.mediafire.com/?1xww480v8ykxjpv http://www.mediafire.com/?1xww480v8ykxjpv My friend also asked me what the the announce url of my public bittorrent tracker is. Jonas From: Craig Whitmore <mailto:craig(a)voyager.co.nzcraig(a)voyager.co.nzmailto:craig(a)voyager.co.nz> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:09:17 -0700 To: Dave Green <mailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nzdave.green(a)snowline.co.nzmailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz>, "mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nznznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nznznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . 100+ copyright infringements so far… IP Addresses from mostly New Zealand IP Addresses and 2 government departments ! . Some overseas addresses and some anonymous proxies registered in the Seychelles I'll give a full report in a couple of days.. Thanks From: Dave Green <mailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nzdave.green(a)snowline.co.nzmailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:56:45 +1200 To: <mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nznznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . As you (and several others) have admitted to breaching the copyright and have also supplied your contact details, efforts to track the actual data path aren't really necessary :) On 2/09/2011 1:56 p.m., Eslick, Chris wrote: Viewed from work connection over a proxy that does not log the internal IP. So will work get the notice? From: mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Craig Whitmore Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 1:43 p.m. To: nznog List Subject: [nznog] An Experiment of CopyrightŠ . I have made a file up and I have 100% copyright to it (as I made it). No one has any permission to view/download/copy/reproduce or anything the file except me (and there is only one of me) The file is at http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/copyright.txt http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/copyright.txt . Do NOT download or view it or anything the file. I'm just file sharing the location of it so I don't forget the location but no one else is allowed to see it. Now lets see how many automated systems download the file or humans try and view MY file. Thanks Craig ________________________________ WARNING: This email and any file transmitted with it are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. You must not copy or deliver it to any other person or use the contents in any unauthorised manner without express permission of the sender. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail, please delete it and notify the sender as soon as possible. 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