RE: [nznog] Argghhh.... [Fwd: Your e-mail message was blocked]
This IS an interesting, if somewhat prolonged, discussion and, needless to say perhaps, I agree with Donald that spam filtering is an operational issue of relevance to this list. But it is also a policy issue of interest to the NZ Government, which is what my job is about. To say that I can change my job as suggested by Joe (clearly I can and maybe in the fullnss of time I will, but that IS irrelevant) somewhat misses the point of why I am on this list... it is because of my *present* job that I think it important. There are many issues of possible government policy relevance that emerge on this list in different ways, spam is just one. Which irony has been pointed out to those who dictate the operational policy for this Ministry. Unfortunately, they do not subscribe to NZNOG as far as I can determine. -- Frank March Telephone (+64 4) 474 2908 Senior Specialist Advisor Fax (+64 4) 474 2659 Information Technology Policy Group Mobile: (+64) 21 042 9205 Ministry of Economic Development, Wellington, New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Donald Neal [mailto:Donald.Neal(a)telecom.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 29 September 2003 10:11 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: [nznog] Argghhh.... [Fwd: Your e-mail message was blocked]
From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:simon(a)igrin.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 29 September 2003 09:21 To: Joe Abley; Russell Fulton Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Argghhh.... [Fwd: Your e-mail message was blocked]
He also has the option of finding a new job, if the policies of his employer don't suit him.
C'mon people (not just Joe) this thread is now getting *way* off topic, (I'm surprised Donald hasn't stepped in yet) although admitedly my original message was somewhat off topic as well.
This is a list for network operators, which doesn't just mean telcos and ISP's. My view is that discussion of spam filtering is appropriate. Granted, by the time we get onto what employees should be allowed to do we may indeed have wandered a bit. http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.
On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 00:52 Canada/Eastern, Frank March wrote:
But it is also a policy issue of interest to the NZ Government, which is what my job is about. To say that I can change my job as suggested by Joe (clearly I can and maybe in the fullnss of time I will, but that IS irrelevant) somewhat misses the point of why I am on this list... it is because of my *present* job that I think it important.
I didn't actually mean to suggest that you should change your job, Frank, for the record, although evidently that wasn't particularly clear. I was speaking more in general; there seemed to be a suggestion that having access to personal e-mail while at work was some kind of fundamental human right, and trumped any other policy put in place by a company which might conflict with it. I think this is nonsense, hence my comment. Progressive, sensible companies (for whom good people will trouble themselves to work) will not install needlessly restrictive policies, but that doesn't mean that conservative, unenlightened companies should not be able to. Anyway, apologies for prolonging the thread. I will now climb back under my rock. Joe
Joe Abley wrote:
Progressive, sensible companies (for whom good people will trouble themselves to work) will not install needlessly restrictive policies, but that doesn't mean that conservative, unenlightened companies should not be able to.
Hold on... Joe, are you saying that the MED is conservative and unenlightened? That it's running needlessly restrictive policies? -- Juha
I think this thread is dead... lets maybe look at the sobig damage..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33059.html
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juha Saarinen"
Joe Abley wrote:
Progressive, sensible companies (for whom good people will trouble themselves to work) will not install needlessly restrictive policies, but that doesn't mean that conservative, unenlightened companies should not be able to.
Hold on... Joe, are you saying that the MED is conservative and unenlightened? That it's running needlessly restrictive policies?
-- Juha
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