Hehe I really need to do more research into my humour posts. Good point, it is a CDN. I wonder how they decide which node to serve from as it would seem easier and quicker to serve out of Sydney rather than the US. Another CDN to contact about routing. Fun times Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326 On 27/02/2014, at 10:46 am, Mike Savory wrote:

Same CDN as the main GCSB site

http://www.incapsula.com

On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Alexander Neilson wrote:

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So where do they host this important guardian of our assets, of course they would host it here in Wellington wouldn’t they, maybe a backup in Auckland

Where it comes from depends a lot... For example we use Cloudflare on Geekzone. Most of the NZ networks will bring content from the Sydney POP, 25ms away. Vodafone NZ cable OTOH use a provider that doesn't interconnect in Sydney so the traffic goes to Sydney, then Singapore and ends in Hong Kong, 150 - 250ms away. I have both Vodafone cable and Snap DSL connections at home and the 10Mbps DSL loads Geekzone faster than the 130Mbps cable. Talked many times with Vodafone and the answer is always around "sorry, can't do much, this is the router our provider gives us". Cheers Mauricio Freitas http://about.me/freitasm ________________________________________ From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz on behalf of Alexander Neilson Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:48 To: Mike Savory Cc: NZNOG Subject: Re: [nznog] [OT] {Humour} NCSC.govt.nz traceroute Hehe I really need to do more research into my humour posts. Good point, it is a CDN. I wonder how they decide which node to serve from as it would seem easier and quicker to serve out of Sydney rather than the US. Another CDN to contact about routing. Fun times Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326 On 27/02/2014, at 10:46 am, Mike Savory wrote:

Same CDN as the main GCSB site

http://www.incapsula.com

On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Alexander Neilson wrote:

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So where do they host this important guardian of our assets, of course they would host it here in Wellington wouldn’t they, maybe a backup in Auckland

On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 22:04 +0000, Mauricio Freitas wrote:

Where it comes from depends a lot...

For example we use Cloudflare on Geekzone.

Why? -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP http://www.greengecko.co.nz Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/steveholdoway Skype: sholdowa

Just for everyone's benefit, if Steve received an insulting reply IT DID NOT COME FROM ME! Cheers Mauricio Freitas http://about.me/freitasm ________________________________________ From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz on behalf of Steve Holdoway Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:11 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] [OT] {Humour} NCSC.govt.nz traceroute On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 11:52 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote:

On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 22:04 +0000, Mauricio Freitas wrote:

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Where it comes from depends a lot...

For example we use Cloudflare on Geekzone.

Why?

OK, I've had a personal reply insulting my intelligence for asking this, although the smelling was a bit poo... This is an honest question. a) It cannot improve the TTFB of a slow site b) It is so invasive as to destroy any local presence ( as mentioned earlier in the thread ). So if you disagree that it's a bad idea, please enlighten me, rather than just call names privately! Maybe we'll all learn something. Steve -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP http://www.greengecko.co.nz Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/steveholdoway Skype: sholdowa _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

To answer your question, the main reason here is savings... About 30% a month is saved in terms of images, scripts and CSS served from CF instead of our servers. At 35ms to SYD (on Snap) it's not much slower than 20ms to AKL - certainly a lot better than 200ms that Vodafone cable puts on though. Shame on that network's upstream provider. Cheers Mauricio Freitas http://about.me/freitasm -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Steve Holdoway Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2014 17:24 To: NZNOG List Subject: Re: [nznog] [OT] {Humour} NCSC.govt.nz traceroute I did reply to clear that up, but have just noticed the poster only cc's to the list so it went direct to them. No it certainly was not Mauricio. Steve On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 01:20 +0000, Mauricio Freitas wrote:

Just for everyone's benefit, if Steve received an insulting reply IT DID NOT COME FROM ME!

Cheers

Mauricio Freitas http://about.me/freitasm

________________________________________ From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz on behalf of Steve Holdoway Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:11 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] [OT] {Humour} NCSC.govt.nz traceroute

On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 11:52 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote:

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On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 22:04 +0000, Mauricio Freitas wrote:

...

Where it comes from depends a lot...

For example we use Cloudflare on Geekzone.

Why?

OK, I've had a personal reply insulting my intelligence for asking this, although the smelling was a bit poo...

This is an honest question.

a) It cannot improve the TTFB of a slow site b) It is so invasive as to destroy any local presence ( as mentioned earlier in the thread ).

So if you disagree that it's a bad idea, please enlighten me, rather than just call names privately!

Maybe we'll all learn something.

Steve

-- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP http://www.greengecko.co.nz Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/steveholdoway Skype: sholdowa

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