NZNOG Conference 2002: Topics
From the past year of discussions
- IPv6. Migration strategies - Wireless beyond 2.4 GHz - Voice over IP - SPAM - SOP6 and freedom on the net If someone goes through the archives, I am sure we will have more points like that. Simple voting could decide then what the actual main topics are and we could then have workshops rather than long speeches. We really just need one or two main topics and could have work shops in which we actually draw up some steps to then be implemented in our various companies. If we keep it simple we will more likely succeed in getting something useful out of it. Beer is something that will happen automatically. Andreas - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Maybe DDoS attacks and how to (attempt to) prevent/minimize the effects of
them.
--On Monday, 14 January 2002 1:27 p.m. +1300 Andreas Girardet
- IPv6. Migration strategies
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 01:27:16PM +1300, Andreas Girardet wrote:
- IPv6. Migration strategies - Wireless beyond 2.4 GHz - Voice over IP - SPAM - SOP6 and freedom on the net
Ok - this looks like a good start. Lets get a list of topics going. I'm treating this as a list of things that I would bother attending a conference to see. It's pretty hard because I'm also limiting it to things that I would be happy to present on. - MPLS (Intro/overview) - rfc2547bis MPLS VPN's - Wireless Network Security Issues - Network Sniffing demo. - OSPF/ISIS/BGP (anything that people want to know) - Multicast (MSDP, DNS as the roll of RP) And someone else wanted -DDoS So add stuff to the list as you feel appropriate. If you feel that you can present it then cool. If it's just something that you want to learn or see someone else present, then put it up and say that. Don't be scared. Dean - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
If someone has facts on it then fine. If it will just be a political discussion then see my previous feelings on that. Dean On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 12:13, Juha Saarinen wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Dean Pemberton wrote:
Don't be scared.
Local loop unbundling?
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On 14 Jan 2002, Dean Pemberton wrote:
If someone has facts on it then fine. If it will just be a political discussion then see my previous feelings on that.
OK, "Local loop unbundling -- technical feasibility study." The notes of this could be mailed to our dearly beloved politicos afterwards. -- Juha Take off every sig! - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Juha Saarinen wrote:
Local loop unbundling?
The other topics are pretty "pure" technical ones. This topic you suggest has the stench of politics about it. :) JSR -- John S Russell | Smile Operations Manager | Nod Attica/Callplus NZ | Build it. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
At 02:30 p.m. 14/01/2002 +1300, J S Russell wrote:
Local loop unbundling?
The other topics are pretty "pure" technical ones. This topic you suggest has the stench of politics about it. :)
I'm happy to add a technical flavour to it and talk about our experiences with our local loop (ie copper not fiber). This will be on experiences with external cat-5 and lightning, power, wind, earths, and wobbly poles. My own view on this is that the loop shouldn't be unbundled as unbundling only keeps inferior stuff around longer and keeps people in the kbps world instead of the mbps world. It would include how to wire your neighbourhood, power over cat-5, both ieee 802-3af and local variants. So that a wider audience can see what was offered earlier in private mail, CityLink has also offered, + some $$$ in form of sponsorship + attendees + speaker(s) + access to both or either APE or WIX + some equipment for an exhibition LAN etc. including wireless access to the "mobile" community While we'd prefer that the conference was in Wn or Ak I'm sure we can al co-operate and get something going elsewhere. From a few years of experience with DECUS conferences, I'm happy to help out with organisation or volunteer someone from CityLink. My experience is also that its easier getting a good playground going in Wn. AK isn't hard but not as good. We also got much better attendance in WN, but that was because there are lots of Govt Depts etc. An NZNOG conference may attract quite a few from non ISP companies particularly if they can just wander down when the boss isn't around. rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
At 01:27 PM 1/14/02 +1300, Andreas Girardet wrote:
From the past year of discussions
- IPv6. Migration strategies - Wireless beyond 2.4 GHz - Voice over IP - SPAM - SOP6 and freedom on the net
Add to that: Blocking of Floods at upstream routers, preferably automatically. David Robb has some excelent idea's about that, and I am still waiting for Cisco to take this issue up, and mediate between the various New Zealand and overseas carriers to make this possible. We just got hit with a flood last week which was at least 60 mbps, but we don't know for sure as it maxed out the 100 Mb Ethernet in both California and here in Auckland.... Bart Bart Kindt Director, Network Operations The Internet Group Limited New Zealand - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
There are companies around who are working on this sort of DDoS attack detection and prevention. If this is a subject that is of interest to people then we can look at getting them to make a presentation. Keep that feedback comming. Dean On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 13:53, Bart Kindt wrote:
At 01:27 PM 1/14/02 +1300, Andreas Girardet wrote:
From the past year of discussions
- IPv6. Migration strategies - Wireless beyond 2.4 GHz - Voice over IP - SPAM - SOP6 and freedom on the net
Add to that: Blocking of Floods at upstream routers, preferably automatically. David Robb has some excelent idea's about that, and I am still waiting for Cisco to take this issue up, and mediate between the various New Zealand and overseas carriers to make this possible.
We just got hit with a flood last week which was at least 60 mbps, but we don't know for sure as it maxed out the 100 Mb Ethernet in both California and here in Auckland....
Bart
Bart Kindt Director, Network Operations The Internet Group Limited New Zealand - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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participants (7)
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Andreas Girardet
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Bart Kindt
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Dean Pemberton
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J S Russell
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Juha Saarinen
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Mark Derricutt
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Richard Naylor