The End Is Nigh... Asia's running out of IP addresses
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-1010666.html?tag=fdfeed I guess this means Australia/NZ too. Seems Joe's missive about IPv6 was quite prescient. -- Juha Saarinen
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Juha Saarinen wrote:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-1010666.html?tag=fdfeed
I guess this means Australia/NZ too. Seems Joe's missive about IPv6 was quite prescient.
The more relevant bit is probably this: "The Americans, for example, own 70 percent of all addresses, she said." And just how much of that space is actually in use? --David
David Robb said:
And just how much of that space is actually in use?
And sometimes I wonder how much of the APNIC/NZ space is actually used as well. Years ago I registered a /22 off Netgate for a company, who never used it and it stayed registered to my APNIC handle. I'm still wondering what to do with it. And there's plenty of other such blocks out there that are forgotten and unused. Kerry -- Kerry Thompson, CCNA CISSP Information Systems Security Consultant http://www.crypt.gen.nz
ill have it.. ill give it a good home. promise :D Regards, Brett Healy, BTW Navigation Systems Ltd -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Thompson [mailto:kez-nznog(a)crypt.gen.nz] Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2003 11:18 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] The End Is Nigh... Asia's running out of IP addresses David Robb said:
And just how much of that space is actually in use?
And sometimes I wonder how much of the APNIC/NZ space is actually used as well. Years ago I registered a /22 off Netgate for a company, who never used it and it stayed registered to my APNIC handle. I'm still wondering what to do with it. And there's plenty of other such blocks out there that are forgotten and unused. Kerry -- Kerry Thompson, CCNA CISSP Information Systems Security Consultant http://www.crypt.gen.nz _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 18:21 Canada/Eastern, Juha Saarinen wrote:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-1010666.html?tag=fdfeed
I guess this means Australia/NZ too. Seems Joe's missive about IPv6 was quite prescient.
The RIRs made a presentation of IPv4 assignments recently at a NANOG meeting: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/rir.html From that slideset, here's a breakdown of IPv4 /8 assignments to RIRs: ARIN 16 RIPE 10 APNIC 9 LACNIC 1 That leaves 16 /8s reserved for multicast, and another 204 which are not currently assigned to any RIR (they're currently designated experimental, reserved, etc). So, only 14% of the available IPv4 address space had been assigned to RIRs at the time of that presentation. The sky is not falling quite as fast as some would have you believe.
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Joe Abley wrote:
That leaves 16 /8s reserved for multicast, and another 204 which are not currently assigned to any RIR (they're currently designated experimental, reserved, etc). So, only 14% of the available IPv4 address space had been assigned to RIRs at the time of that presentation.
Which is fairly meaningless since half those 202 are instead delegated to Large Organisations, Various Registries etc. http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space As has been stated things start getting hairly in about 10 years or so. Less if IP enabled Cellphones start taking off, consider what is going to happen in 5 years time if half the worlds population has an always on ip-enabled cellphone and wants to run p2p apps talking to N arbitary other hosts around the world. As the cost of putting a full IP stack and connection drops to only a couple of dollars or less all sorts of random things will start having them. And before you say NAT remember that the power company will want to directly access your meter and hotwater cylinder, your car company the car, your whiteware company the fridge etc. Did I mention the games console? When stuff like that comes along we really want them to be deployed on a nice ipv6 internet rather than have to suddenly switch cause demand increases by a factor of 10 overnight. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz Ihug Ltd, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 10:21, Juha Saarinen wrote:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-1010666.html?tag=fdfeed
I guess this means Australia/NZ too. Seems Joe's missive about IPv6 was quite prescient.
The sky is not yet falling. See the follow up from Paul Wilson of APNIC: http://forums.com.com/group/zd.News.Talkback/zdnn/tb.tpt/@thread(a)186914@forward(a)1@D-,D(a)ALL/@article(a)186914?EXP=ALL&VWM=hr&ROS=1&PAGETP=2100&SHOST=zdnet.com.com&NODEID=1103
On 29 May 2003, Andy Linton wrote:
The sky is not yet falling.
Just raining a bit heavier than usual?
See the follow up from Paul Wilson of APNIC:
As well as that good post, there are some others about IP space wastage that are interesting. -- Juha Saarinen
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