" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. " I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just running my normal business activities. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Poole [mailto:matt(a)p00le.net] Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 4:39 p.m. To: Juha Saarinen Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New ADSL products. On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Juha Saarinen wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Matthew Poole wrote:
"500MB should be enough for everyone."
Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. Everyone knows that. RIANZ probably helped Telecom come up with the pricing model (I wouldn't be surprised, actually) </TONGUE-IN-CHEEK>
As JSR said, you chew through more just trying to keep Windows up-to-date.
And we still get to pay extra for all the traffic generated by the little Windows greeblies. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:51, Richard Parkinson wrote:
" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. "
I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just running my normal business activities.
The Venture Southland/Walker Wireless/Vodafone/Project Probe consortium will supposedly release its much anticipated but long overdue rollout and pricing plan in the next fortnight. Obviously this is the first 'Probe' region to be available to the public. I can't help but wonder if the new DSL pricing is designed to take the bluster out of the WW release in Southland. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RaVhTV0Xs0S7UB4RAhAkAJsEfsBoXlDR0GLw8JEwKF0Wvt/ahQCePtPF mv7wDMRISVLtxSsdBmeCMgE= =BA8i -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
At 17:08 22/08/2003 +1200, you wrote:
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:51, Richard Parkinson wrote:
" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. "
I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just running my normal business activities.
The Venture Southland/Walker Wireless/Vodafone/Project Probe consortium will supposedly release its much anticipated but long overdue rollout and pricing plan in the next fortnight. Obviously this is the first 'Probe' region to be available to the public. I can't help but wonder if the new DSL pricing is designed to take the bluster out of the WW release in Southland.
might have to move back down to invercargill then! .... whats happening with that umm... southnet wireless shiznit down there? that still going?? Antonio Broughton
yes, on that note, our new wireless network is looking more and more
competitive by the day
Cheers
Dan Clark
Network Manager
Scarfies.Net Ltd
Wickliffe Ltd
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From: "Antonio Broughton"
At 17:08 22/08/2003 +1200, you wrote:
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:51, Richard Parkinson wrote:
" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. "
I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just running my normal business activities.
The Venture Southland/Walker Wireless/Vodafone/Project Probe consortium will supposedly release its much anticipated but long overdue rollout and pricing plan in the next fortnight. Obviously this is the first 'Probe' region to be available to the public. I can't help but wonder if the new DSL pricing is designed to take the bluster out of the WW release in Southland.
might have to move back down to invercargill then! .... whats happening with that umm... southnet wireless shiznit down there? that still going??
Antonio Broughton
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Dan Clark wrote:
yes, on that note, our new wireless network is looking more and more competitive by the day
We've been walking round central Wellington for the last couple of days, using Cisco 7920 mobile wi-fi phones.... over CafeNet.... Voice quality perfect, over DLink Access points.... the price of the phones is pretty ugly (~NZ$750/~NZ950 according to your license needs) but it is hard to subsidise the phones when the price of calls is unbeatable...... R...
Cheers Dan Clark Network Manager Scarfies.Net Ltd Wickliffe Ltd
-- \_ Roger De Salis rdesalis at fx dot net dot nz
Southland is really spoiled. Southnet are basically everwere from my limited underatanding Dunedin has about 4 operators Invercargil has Actrix & Southnet Queenstown has BRH/Actrix & Southnet + some other clown It's a preatty good deal down that way! Best Regards Matthew G Brown Managing Director B & R Holdings LIMITED Nelson, New Zealand Ph: 027 4807731 Http://www.brh.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: Antonio Broughton [mailto:worz(a)world-net.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 5:09 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New ADSL products. At 17:08 22/08/2003 +1200, you wrote:
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:51, Richard Parkinson wrote:
" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. "
I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb,
just running my normal business activities.
The Venture Southland/Walker Wireless/Vodafone/Project Probe consortium
will supposedly release its much anticipated but long overdue rollout and pricing plan in the next fortnight. Obviously this is the first 'Probe' region to be available to the public. I can't help but wonder if the new DSL pricing is designed to take the bluster out of the WW release in Southland.
might have to move back down to invercargill then! .... whats happening with that umm... southnet wireless shiznit down there? that still going?? Antonio Broughton _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
heh... yea.... i reckon southland should become new zealands answer to silicon valley.... it makes sence... Invercargill is close to a great port (Bluff), sea food, great skiiing (Queenstown), vast amounts of land (just use the land from ingill to gore :D), so really... it just makes sence!!! Antonio Broughton At 17:30 22/08/2003 +1200, you wrote:
Southland is really spoiled.
Southnet are basically everwere from my limited underatanding Dunedin has about 4 operators Invercargil has Actrix & Southnet Queenstown has BRH/Actrix & Southnet + some other clown
It's a preatty good deal down that way!
Best Regards
Matthew G Brown Managing Director B & R Holdings LIMITED Nelson, New Zealand Ph: 027 4807731 Http://www.brh.co.nz
-----Original Message----- From: Antonio Broughton [mailto:worz(a)world-net.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 5:09 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New ADSL products.
At 17:08 22/08/2003 +1200, you wrote:
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:51, Richard Parkinson wrote:
" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. "
I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb,
just running my normal business activities.
The Venture Southland/Walker Wireless/Vodafone/Project Probe consortium
will supposedly release its much anticipated but long overdue rollout and pricing plan in the next fortnight. Obviously this is the first 'Probe' region to be available to the public. I can't help but wonder if the new DSL pricing is designed to take the bluster out of the WW release in Southland.
might have to move back down to invercargill then! .... whats happening with that umm... southnet wireless shiznit down there? that still going??
Antonio Broughton
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 12:08 AM, Jon Dean wrote:
The Venture Southland/Walker Wireless/Vodafone/Project Probe consortium will supposedly release its much anticipated but long overdue rollout and pricing plan in the next fortnight. Obviously this is the first 'Probe' region to be available to the public. I can't help but wonder if the new DSL pricing is designed to take the bluster out of the WW release in Southland.
No doubt they'll bring out some anti-competitive pricing plan that lowers the price for Southland, just like they did in Wellington (street by street) when Saturn rolled out dial tone.
http://computerworld.co.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/AED81B6F105D1945CC256D8A0018D4FC... Chris Thompson is a funny guy. Of course most people use as little data as possible, what with Telecom's exorbitant charges. And look at his comments about "users don't want the complexity" when it comes to international and national data charging. So users want to keep it simple, and get gouged by Telecom? What sort of nonsense is that? -- Regards, Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.
of course this puts it all into perspective http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=3519316& thesection=business&thesubsection=technology&thesecondsubsection=information &thetickercode=TEL
http://computerworld.co.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/AED81B6F105D1945CC256D 8A0018D4FC!opendocument
Chris Thompson is a funny guy. Of course most people use as little data as possible, what with Telecom's exorbitant charges.
And look at his comments about "users don't want the complexity" when it comes to international and national data charging. So users want to keep it simple, and get gouged by Telecom?
What sort of nonsense is that?
-- Regards,
Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Thomas Salmen wrote:
of course this puts it all into perspective
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=3519316& thesection=business&thesubsection=technology&thesecondsubsection=information &thetickercode=TEL
Yes... perhaps Jetstream customers are supposed to subsidise that deal? -- Regards, Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.
nice comeback to the probe initiative, anyway. maybe i should move in with my parents on the farm. maybe i should move to korea. just how important is broadband again?
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Thomas Salmen wrote:
of course this puts it all into perspective
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyI D=3519316&
thesection=business&thesubsection=technology&thesecondsubsection=i nformation
&thetickercode=TEL
Yes... perhaps Jetstream customers are supposed to subsidise that deal?
-- Regards,
Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.
not a great deal of purchasing power then...
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Thomas Salmen wrote:
maybe i should move to korea. just how important is broadband again?
Not very... only 3% of possible subscribers have got Jetstream.
-- Regards,
Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.
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